Did you know not performing as you think another player should in a group

[Dualgunner]

Not nearly as far as you are going to ensure you're correct, facts be fanned. It's a non exhaustive list that focused on language, and the avoiding anti harassment was an example of something that didn't make their list.

[missybee]

Damn, people go to great length to justify kicking people.

I really don't think the people who are kicking with reckless abandon care bout justification.

[Reynhart]

Not nearly as far as you are going to ensure you're correct, facts be fanned. It's a non exhaustive list that focused on language, and the avoiding anti harassment was an example of something that didn't make their list.

No, it's a definition based on language with a non-exhaustive examples of them...and there may be other types, far more aggravating that someone pulling too much or too little for your taste.
On a sidenote, I'd like you to provide that "facts" you claim. And something more sturdy than "GM won't do anything because any reason can be shoehorned is "whatever we want it to be"". You can kick someone actively participating for "Connexion lost" and they'll still tell you "We can't intervene for different playstyle, sorry"

I really don't think the people who are kicking with reckless abandon care bout justification.

That's exactly why kicks should be more restrictive and less subject to a simple case of "bad look" or "not saying Hello".

[HyoMinPark]

That's exactly why kicks should be more restrictive and less subject to a simple case of "bad look" or "not saying Hello".

I find it doubtful that people kick for those reasons you listed. Please. Hyperbole doesn't help your arguments.


The fact that we're having to argue that harassment exists in more than just verbal forms is mind-boggling. Even SE is aware that harassment has many forms, not just verbal. Hence the last paragraph of their harassment definition.

[Dualgunner]

No, it's a definition based on language with a non-exhaustive examples of them...and there may be other types, far more aggravating that someone pulling too much or too little for your taste.

Avoiding anti harassment measures such as the black list is not language based harassment. Therefore, no, it is a list focused on language but leaves open the concept that action based harassment is still possible.

[Reynhart]

Avoiding anti harassment measures such as the black list is not language based harassment. Therefore, no, it is a list focused on language but leaves open the concept that action based harassment is still possible.

Too bad the same paragraph states that Square-Enix would be the one to judge if this is harassment. So, again, "not doing AoE" is not harassment.

I find it doubtful that people kick for those reasons you listed. Please. Hyperbole doesn't help your arguments.

You haven't seen the worst of this community then, trust me.

[Dualgunner]

Too bad the same paragraph states that Square-Enix would be the one to judge if this is harassment. So, again, "not doing AoE" is not harassment.

edit: one could then assume Square has had their decision made by mods who support dismissal for differing playstyles.

[Dualgunner]

On phone--correction incoming

[Reynhart]

Square Enix isn't; players are.

Read again...

[Dualgunner]

My apologies.

Got your data about all this rampant kicking going on by the way? I'd be very interested to see it.