SCH adlo and succor

[kobe-sabi]

i wish we could have a crit adlo given to us by our pet a 10% chance from embrace and succor needs to be buff to 200 potency since it cost so much. everything is hitting too hard, the 150 isnt good enough for what it cost. i hate putting up a adlo and have it not mean shit to a TB, yes i know i can put a excog with a non crit adlo and lustrate if needed but i feel lke we have to use so much resources to keep tanks who like to dps up. since all need to dps if you want to beat shit. im not being non reasonable, not asking to buff the mp expensive adlo just let my pet give me a crit one that i know will do some work. also the 10 gauge per tick 5800 fey union is weak, should be 5 gauge per tick for a 3.0 embrace, i bet the nerf for embrace was so this move would mean something, jk they nerf embrace do to lazy SCH using pet to heal dungeon runs

[Xaeth]

I've learned to live with the current power balance but I think that if SE want Adlo to be used mostly as a shield, it should be rebalanced to 200 potency heal with shield being 2x that and still having the shield double potency when you get a crit. when using it to shield, the healing is mostly wasted anyway.

[Rivxkobe]

SCH is pretty much fine as it is. But, yeah, no let's buff it so WHM is cut out again.

SCH not being as strong as it was =/= it being weak. SCHs have had it great since 2.x, now they need a little time to muddle with mediocrity.

[kobe-sabi]

i been playing since 2.0 and i learned to live with it too, but it just seems these to main skills we have, haven't improved, meanwhile the whm and the new AST have got their buffed and reworked. i just want SE to throw some love to us SCH too.

[Eloah]

SCH is pretty much fine as it is. But, yeah, no let's buff it so WHM is cut out again.

SCH not being as strong as it was =/= it being weak. SCHs have had it great since 2.x, now they need a little time to muddle with mediocrity.

Where is that gif that shows you missed the point. First no job should have to suffer with mediocrity. Just like in real life, you can't flip oppression to the opposite side of the coin and expect things to become "fair". Second WHM isn't/wasn't being cut out because they couldn't heal they lacked utility once fights were learned, so people opted for healers with more utility. WHM is always going to be the go to healer for learning parties and a nice default for PuGs since as SE has stated they are the Pure Healer. The main thing SCHs want is to have their Shield niche back; and Dissipation please for the love of god fix Dissipation.

Plus you do know that regardless of the "Meta" more Healers play WHM more than the other 2.

[Justin_Uriel]

I have been running V4S now for 3 weeks and to be honest I am really upset with our shield strength. I don't understand why our first heal (physick) does not have a 15% chance to make your next adlo crit or something like that. I am pretty sure the other two healing classes have a nice extra for their first heal. Well ok, we all don't need to have anything close to the same abilities but at least make the lore of the characters hold true. Our shields couldn't stop a dust ball right now. Pray for crit and see what happens, but don't spam because it cost way too much to fish for them.
And I do agree.. the 70 skill is meh... at best. It helps in very, very specific times during the run to V4... but.... yeah...... maybe 10 times do I hit that button between all of them.

[Silver-Strider]

There's only 3 things I personally feel need to happen to SCH for it to be perfect in my eyes.

Succor needs to get the same benefits for crits as Adlo
Emergency Tactics needs to cut the cost of Adlo/Succor in half
Dissipation needs to grant a free, instant Fairy summon.

Some buffs for Selene wouldn't hurt either but I can take it or leave it at this point.

[Penthea]

SCH is pretty much fine as it is. But, yeah, no let's buff it so WHM is cut out again.

SCH not being as strong as it was =/= it being weak. SCHs have had it great since 2.x, now they need a little time to muddle with mediocrity.

Sch needed toning down for sure but SE definitely went too far.

And no, no one needs time to be mediocre. This isn't a case of it being sch's turn to be the least desirable healer. SE didn't say "Sch has been shining for long enough! Time to make it undertuned!". That's not how class balance works. SE intended sch to be in line with the other healers but they hit it too hard with the nerf hammer. Sch has already been adjusted since SB launch, and I'm sure more adjustments will come in the future.

[Dzian]

There\\'s only 3 things I personally feel need to happen to SCH for it to be perfect in my eyes.

Succor needs to get the same benefits for crits as Adlo
Emergency Tactics needs to cut the cost of Adlo/Succor in half
Dissipation needs to grant a free, instant Fairy summon.

Some buffs for Selene wouldn\\'t hurt either but I can take it or leave it at this point.

Auto fairy resummon would make dissipation better. A long with stacks building the fairy gauge even during dissipation. Worst part aboutbthe fairy gauge is it completely resets if you did. And takes so long to recharge it.

But yeah selene needs buffs. Half the recast on caress and make wind 5% and do something with silent dusk for the love of god

Sch needed toning down for sure but SE definitely went too far.

With regards to shields I think the problem is more ast being to strong. Seems to have stronger base shields with a lower cost than scholars. Excluding crit but you cannot rely on them.

I do think scholar needs slightly stronger shields. It shouldn\\'t be surpassed by an ast given an ast can fulfil both aspects of a healer role yet seems stronger than the respective healers in each of those aspects.

(Most of this is based on friends that play ast cos I don\\'t even have it unlocked)

[Penthea]

With regards to shields I think the problem is more ast being to strong. Seems to have stronger base shields with a lower cost than scholars. Excluding crit but you cannot rely on them.

I do think scholar needs slightly stronger shields. It shouldn\\'t be surpassed by an ast given an ast can fulfil both aspects of a healer role yet seems stronger than the respective healers in each of those aspects.

It is a bit of a kick in the teeth when you know ast can do one of sch's primary mechanics better.

To add to this, I have lvled all three healers to 70 and honestly the mana efficiency of sch is noticeably lower than ast or whm. The fairy would make up for it a bit if Embrace wasn't reduced to the little sneeze it is now.