[Proposal] Instanced Gardening

[Maku]

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On top of my instanced gardening proposal, I would add the proposal that you can access your instance from your apartments and housing. They would not get a second gardening area or anything because of having a house but having access from the houses would be good. This would eliminate a single character double dipping.

[Maku]

I was being polite when I said revamp it needs completely reworked conceptually and most importantly, technically.

Having such a huge feature available to the lucky/rich/whatever-you-prefer was design stupidity.

Plant pots, apartments do not fix the flaw in the system but just adds sticky plasters to it. Each player should have access to a house, even just one per account, not just a few people.

Yes, literally everyone agrees with that statement but please do not derail this thread. They will not rework the whole system but they have added things to make things better. This is an addition to make a system that they WILL NOT CHANGE better. Does it give everyone the chance to have a pretty house no. But it takes away the two things that have DIRECT EFFECT ON OTHER FEATURES OF THE GAME away from the housing system and thus eliminates the restrictiveness of these two things.

Having a pretty house doesn't effect anything other than having a pretty house. Gardening effects the market and stables effect chocobos.

[Skivvy]

On top of my instanced gardening proposal, I would add the proposal that you can access your instance from your apartments and housing. They would not get a second gardening area or anything because of having a house but having access from the houses would be good. This would eliminate a single character double dipping.

Err, sorry if I wasn't clear I definitely had in my mind that each player would only have a single gardening instance. The extra gardening from houses/apartments exist in the form of their gardening plots in the yard and flower pots. Would be a nice touch to be able to enter the instance from either your house, apartment or inn (whichever applies).

There is still the potential concern of people creating multiple alts to take advantage of the gardening instance, but I'm sure SE could come up with some obnoxious road blocks to make this less likely.

[Maku]

Err, sorry if I wasn't clear I definitely had in my mind that each player would only have a single gardening instance. The extra gardening from houses/apartments exist in the form of their gardening plots in the yard and flower pots. Would be a nice touch to be able to enter the instance from either your house, apartment or inn (whichever applies).

There is still the potential concern of people creating multiple alts to take advantage of the gardening instance, but I'm sure SE could come up with some obnoxious road blocks to make this less likely.

I honestly forget what the requirement for gardening in FFXI was or if there even was one. But people already did whatever it takes to buy multi houses on a ton of alts so I would imagine people would do this again but that is just something you gota live with. ^^ I would also just do away with gardening plots for anything but decoration.

[Skivvy]

I honestly forget what the requirement for gardening in FFXI was or if there even was one. But people already did whatever it takes to buy multi houses on a ton of alts so I would imagine people would do this again but that is just something you gota live with. ^^ I would also just do away with gardening plots for anything but decoration.

Could be kind of cool to be able to grow decorative plants I suppose And if every player now has gardening access, I guess there would not be the need for the pots/plots. I imagine there would be some initial outcry as features are being taken away, but it would definitely level the playing field so to speak.


And just for clarification, I absolutely hate how SE implemented housing. :X It seems wrong to not be able to provide housing to all players in a non-competitive subscription game. In a perfect world, SE would scrap everything and start over, but this is SE we're talking about, and we can't have a lot of basic things. Just trying to come up with ideas that could make things a bit more fair, and bring game features to all players :X

[Limecat]

Better idea: Refund the plot/permit costs, delete the wards, delete the code related to them, hire the devs that did housing for Wildstar, have them start from scratch.

[Maku]

Better idea: Refund the plot/permit costs, delete the wards, delete the code related to them, hire the devs that did housing for Wildstar, have them start from scratch.

STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS THREAD INTO ALL THE OTHER "WE HATE EVERYTHING, CHANGE IT ALL FROM THE GROUND UP"!!! It will NOT happen so let's try and keep this thread talking about a solution that could work with/add on to the current system.

[Nuna]

STOP TRYING TO MAKE THIS THREAD INTO ALL THE OTHER "WE HATE EVERYTHING, CHANGE IT ALL FROM THE GROUND UP"!!! It will NOT happen so let's try and keep this thread talking about a solution that could work with/add on to the current system.

You need to calm down if you want to have a proper discussion.

[Maku]

You need to calm down if you want to have a proper discussion.

Just did caps to draw peoples attention to try and keep this from getting derailed. There is not proper discussion to be had with people who continually want to "redo it all." That is just beating a dead horse argument at this point.

[Zfz]

The problem is a structural one. I don't really think plastering band-aids all over the place is better than making it known that we want a real solution.