[Proposal] Instanced Gardening

[Maku]

You need to calm down if you want to have a proper discussion.

Just did caps to draw peoples attention to try and keep this from getting derailed. There is not proper discussion to be had with people who continually want to "redo it all." That is just beating a dead horse argument at this point.

[Krotoan]

Better idea: Refund the plot/permit costs, delete the wards, delete the code related to them, hire the devs that did housing for Wildstar, have them start from scratch.

and watch them cry because you've asked them to develop an entire system for an engine they're not trained in or fluent with.


I support instanced gardening. I'd propose a "greenhouse" entrance in each city that was supposedly the city garden. giving everyone access to an instanced 8 space gardening plot (I'd love more but lets start small) perhaps purchaseable for a similar fee to a apartment or private room in a FC house. It could be a small room with a glass ceiling and door, displaying further other individual greenhouse rooms fading into the distance through the door (just to show it's one room out of many).

I have other ideas as well about an instanced "hangar" for FC's without a house to launch airship missions from. But I'll stop since this is about personal gardens.

[Zfz]

The problem is a structural one. I don't really think plastering band-aids all over the place is better than making it known that we want a real solution.

[Felis]

apartment room + flower pot = instanced gardening

[Eldevern]

Why not. But considering the way they would probably implement it... well, they should rather revamp housing.

I agree it probably needs less ressources, developper side (thought I'm not that sure), to create such option, but regarding the server side, it sounds so-so or heavier compared to a revamped housing.

PS : They are perfectly able to revamp housing if they want. We have seen MMO doing revamps (Bless is currently doing one - that's why they are two years late to release on western market-) or deleting areas (Aion 3.x to 4.x or 4.x to 5.x I don't remember, but related to the story mode, they added a new area and deleted an old one).

[Reinha]

Simple fix: implement a mega plant pot (8 slots) only usable in apartments. There, crossbreed gardening for everyone. Apartments already come with stables, a MB, a summoning bell, vendors and 100 furniture slots (what small houses used to have). They don't auto-demolish either.

To my knowledge the only server without any available apartments is Balmung, and that's a player created problem (people having 8 alts and buying an apartment on each + overpopulation). The solution to all of Balmung's problems continues to be blocking all transfers and character creation until player numbers go down and offering free transfers to designated servers (which have plenty of apartments).

[Maku]

What? I don't think any server has every apartment full.

Simple fix: implement a mega plant pot (8 slots) only usable in apartments. There, crossbreed gardening for everyone. Apartments already come with stables, a MB, a summoning bell, vendors and 100 furniture slots (what small houses used to have). They don't auto-demolish either.

If you introduce gardening into apartments they will sell out do to the extra functionality and we will again be in the same position we are in now. Instanced gardening would have NO limitations on number of people who would be able to have one.

The only solution IS to rework it all, and make housing instanced. It is far too much of a mess in it's current state.
I have my gil saved up yet again in a attempt to get a house once it becomes available in Kurogane, i do not expect i will actually be able to get one once released.

It is clearly not the only rework. It will not happen. SE will not rebuild the system up from the ground. They are dug too far in and apart from another calamity wont do it. So again, everyone, let's put the total rework on the table for now and just talk about the gardening instances. Save your total rework comment for one of the other millions of threads on the topic.

They already have a skeleton frame work for instanced gardening from FFXI to work on, so it is a much more likely situation.

[Dyvid]

If you introduce gardening into apartments they will sell out do to the extra functionality and we will again be in the same position we are in now. Instanced gardening would have NO limitations on number of people who would be able to have one.

Apartments already have gardening. The only thing SE needs to add is two or three plant flower pots for crossbreeding.

[Reinha]

If you introduce gardening into apartments they will sell out do to the extra functionality and we will again be in the same position we are in now. Instanced gardening would have NO limitations on number of people who would be able to have one.

According to an interview the devs are prepared to increase the number of apartments if needed and the system was built in a way that makes it possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ments_it_wont/

[Maku]

According to an interview the devs are prepared to increase the number of apartments if needed and the system was built in a way that makes it possible.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ments_it_wont/

Increase to what? Did they say infinity? If they said infinity then sure I can go along with what you suggested about connecting it to apartments. If they are just going to increase it to a new max though then no, I would be against that connection and would still suggest a totally separate system for the instanced gardening.