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  1. #291
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    DRKoftheAzure's Avatar
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    Gridania and Ul'dah (because Ishgard not allowed to be starting city-state :c)
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    Strea Leonhart
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    If 4.1 doesn't give DRK a 3rd combo finisher and more raid utility I'm just going to let my game time run out... simple as that... I suggest all DRK mains do the same...
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  2. #292
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    Deathshiro's Avatar
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    Character
    Shiro Falh
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    If 4.1 doesn't give DRK a 3rd combo finisher and more raid utility I'm just going to let my game time run out... simple as that... I suggest all DRK mains do the same...
    Hell at this point I'd be happy to get something for Autos, because TBN is neither worth it or good enough for them. Also a 3rd combo action would be great to break the monotony that is 1-2-3-4 that we currently have going on.
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  3. #293
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    Crater's Avatar
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    Jade Nixx
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathshiro View Post
    Hell at this point I'd be happy to get something for Autos, because TBN is neither worth it or good enough for them.
    You really couldn't ask for a better tool for mitigating auto-attacks than TBN. In a lot of fights it's basically just a hair shy of being as effective on auto-attacks a permanent Rampart.
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  4. #294
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    Ostwar's Avatar
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    Jimmy Johns
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    If 4.1 doesn't give DRK a 3rd combo finisher and more raid utility I'm just going to let my game time run out... simple as that... I suggest all DRK mains do the same...
    I would settle for some mitigation or self healing added to Blood Price.
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  5. #295
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Gridania/Lominsa
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    Character
    Mute Shellback
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    You really couldn't ask for a better tool for mitigating auto-attacks than TBN. In a lot of fights it's basically just a hair shy of being as effective on auto-attacks a permanent Rampart.
    but for 2400 a pop, for ~5 seconds, every 15s?
    That's a lot of MP to be driven into a single skill to try and make up for our lacking mitigation when compared to the other options.
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  6. #296
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    Accelerating's Avatar
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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ostwar View Post
    I would settle for some mitigation or self healing added to Blood Price.
    Allowing Blood Price outside of Grit again would be a great start to make the skill useful.
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  7. #297
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    347SPECTRE's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Khirrika Moshroca
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I don't think making BP usable outside of Grit would make it more useful, when outside Grit we have access to Blood Weapon, which is way more reliable for MP recovery AND it also boosts damage. Whereas BP gives us MP when hit, and it's also not very much. And in an OT situation where there's no adds, I.E. we arent getting hit, it'd be useless. One way to make it useful is to increase the amount of MP we get per hit and possibly add a little bit of damage reduction for the duration of the skill(5-10% maybe), would make using Delirium on it worth it.
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  8. #298
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    Accelerating's Avatar
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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by 347SPECTRE View Post
    when outside Grit we have access to Blood Weapon, which is way more reliable for MP recovery AND it also boosts damage. Whereas BP gives us MP when hit, and it's also not very much.
    That's the problem: You want to avoid Grit as much as possible. And unless BP gives more DPS than BW and nullifies the Grit penalty it will be useless.
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  9. #299
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crater View Post
    You really couldn't ask for a better tool for mitigating auto-attacks than TBN. In a lot of fights it's basically just a hair shy of being as effective on auto-attacks a permanent Rampart.
    errr no... not really. it costs you a load of MP and so its not really "on demand" as something like rampart is. you could be taking loads of damage from a boss and be like "damn time to pop a cooldown" only to see you've run out of them and you dont have enough MP for TBN. meanwhile a WAR can just switch to Defiance and use IB, and a PLD can use Sheltron, Clemency or any of its other plethra of cooldowns. DRK litterally only has 2 "main" cooldowns where as both WAR and PLD have atleast 3 (including Rampart here... without Rampart DRK litterally only has Shadow wall that is an "on demand" defensive cooldown for all damage types), not to mention that Shadow wall is just a dumbed down Sentinel with a higher recast cooldown.
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    Last edited by VenKitsune; 08-11-2017 at 11:20 AM.

  10. #300
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    Tegernako's Avatar
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    Character
    Crusina Luachra
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    What are the chances of them giving DRK back old skills like they did with SCH?
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    Halo kid

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