SMN 4.06 Changes

[Valenten]

They should have buffed Ruin 3 and 4 and the dots imo. Then the mechanical changes in 4.1 but Im convinced at this point that no one on the balance team actually plays SMN. SMN should do more dmg than Red Mage simply because its harder to play than RDM is.

[Lildragora]

They should have buffed Ruin 3 and 4 and the dots imo. Then the mechanical changes in 4.1 but Im convinced at this point that no one on the balance team actually plays SMN. SMN should do more dmg than Red Mage simply because its harder to play than RDM is.

Im of the same mindset that something more complex should be better, however unfortunately that isn't this game. Instead they balance around provided DPS and provided Utility. Which is a valid argument for SMN doing more damage than RDM since RDM is very mobile, and has minimal quantity but very effective utility (might be wrong since I dont play the job) so I would hope a well played SMN could easily out pace a RDM in dps.

[MidnightTundra]

They should have buffed Ruin 3 and 4 and the dots imo. Then the mechanical changes in 4.1 but Im convinced at this point that no one on the balance team actually plays SMN. SMN should do more dmg than Red Mage simply because its harder to play than RDM is.

It most likely will actually. Not by much. This buff will give around ~200DPS to the smns doing 4k DPS on single target. SMN was only 130 ~ 150 behind RDM on single target.

The issue is that contagion is one of the strongest buffs in the game but no one runs caster comps so embolden wins. Caster comps will most likely never be a thing due to RDM being a caster that doesn't synergize with other casters. Around 20% of RDMs DPS is physical.

[Cynric]

It most likely will actually. Not by much. This buff will give around ~200DPS to the smns doing 4k DPS on single target. SMN was only 130 ~ 150 behind RDM on single target.

The issue is that contagion is one of the strongest buffs in the game but no one runs caster comps so embolden wins. Caster comps will most likely never be a thing due to RDM being a caster that doesn't synergize with other casters. Around 20% of RDMs DPS is physical.

There's like way more than just RDM keeping caster comps from being viable.

on-topic : Summoner buffs were meh but expected, they said only potency buffs till they can make more systematic changes to the job itself.

[MidnightTundra]

There's like way more than just RDM keeping caster comps from being viable.

on-topic : Summoner buffs were meh but expected, they said only potency buffs till they can make more systematic changes to the job itself.

Obviously but yes, this is part of it. Physical DPS either provide stronger raid buffs or do more DPS than casters. Also Tank DPS > Healer DPS.

[Fannah]

Around 20% of RDMs DPS is physical.

I may be wrong, but I doubt Fleche + Contre Sixte to reprensent 20% of the RDM overall DPS.

[ShaolinMike]

I may be wrong, but I doubt Fleche + Contre Sixte to reprensent 20% of the RDM overall DPS.

Their entire melee combo is also physical.

EDIT: 5am braining is not so good. Disregard lol.

[MelvinK]

Their entire melee combo is also physical.

Enchanted version of the melee combo are magical.

[Claire_Pendragon]

Enchanted version of the melee combo are magical.

Im starting to think the normal WS is magical, or at least if it is physical, it still uses magic attack stats, since y auto attack at Lv70 takes 6 hits to kill a Lv5 mob, but it takes a non enchanted Riposte to kill a Lv43 in a single hit.
granted its pretty easy to find out, i was was willing to unfilter a bunch of info in my chat log.

[Remedi]

It most likely will actually. Not by much. This buff will give around ~200DPS to the smns doing 4k DPS on single target. SMN was only 130 ~ 150 behind RDM on single target.

The issue is that contagion is one of the strongest buffs in the game but no one runs caster comps so embolden wins. Caster comps will most likely never be a thing due to RDM being a caster that doesn't synergize with other casters. Around 20% of RDMs DPS is physical.

The melee combo of RDM is magical dmg too tbh, that said I think that what's killing caster coomps is the mindset behind comps and ppl not trying new things

edit: also take consideration that PLD have a magical burst phase once every minutes