Relic weapons for Stormblood?

[Voltyblast]

4.15 is too late. the relic quest is cheap content wich can fill the gap between 4.0 and 4.1. didn't heavensward lost half the playerbase during the same time? we need something to do between the raids in the next 4 months

Yep it sure did, and if they don't drop 4.1 sooner we might have the same accident.

And also

There are Crafting, Gathering, Hunts, side quests, Ixion Farming, Foxy farming, Off-job leveling + gearing, treasure maps, farming for minions to fill the time still.

Just no: not everyone likes crafting and gathering, and hunts are long dead - as they should be: they are trash and toxic showers anyway.
Side quests...for what reason may I ask? Maybe Dailies could be a thing but...do you see any new dailies? I don't so....next one.
Treasure maps...which give basically additional trash? They added aquapolis 2.0 but it's the same thing. Wasted potential there.
And no, minion collecting is not content. Same for mount collecting. Or else WoW would say hi with their HUNDREDS of mounts and pets to collect! And just like crafting and gathering not everyone likes to collect them.
And please stop saying Job leveling is content: it is not and on top of that you can only gear one job at the time (did you forget weekly cap?). Without mentioning that all the pwecious gear will become obsolete as soon as 4.1 (LFR will give 330 loot, making deltascape obsolete) and 4.2 (new 350 loot). It's a shame relics aren't out already because by the time 4.1 is out people will already have 330 weapons (from deltascape) and more than one at that...so relic will have the same end as 3.1: only the hardcore players will bother.

On a side note, and what the eff is ixion and foxy farming?

[NorthernLadMSP]

Patch 4.15 is what Yoshi-P said they were aiming for.

I wonder why not sooner. You know it's gonna be a rehash of ARR and HW all over again, i.e. the new version of Atma, exorbitant crafted pieces and a whole crap load of Verity farming.

[AmeliaVerves]

And please stop saying Job leveling is content

Can you please explain that 'argument' a bit further? Since Relic-Quests never really added new content, but rather made you the run the existing content over and over again I think it is rather invalid. :/

Furthermore, I think Chalbee is right saying there is a lot of stuff that can be done already, if you don't want/like it, fair enough, but give others a chance to have time to do everything without being rushed too much, please.

[Voltyblast]

Can you please explain that 'argument' a bit further? Since Relic-Quests never really added new content, but rather made you the run the existing content over and over again I think it is rather invalid. :/

Furthermore, I think Chalbee is right saying there is a lot of stuff that can be done already, if you don't want/like it, fair enough, but give others a chance to have time to do everything without being rushed too much, please.

Relic quests aren't new content but considering the drought we're having (for the second time and at the same patch time if I may add), having some time waste such as a relic couldn't hurt. I don't like relics but right now I'd probably do them since I don't have much to do beside the usual roulette for tomes and doing Moogle dailies for leveling my crafters (because I'm not too fussed about leveling them, but dailies only take 30 minutes so it's okay). I'm not touching extreme with a stick since they're a cesspool of toxicity. Same for raiding.

Also, I already DONE that content: I already did hunts in 2.3 (upgraded my entire 120 armor back then), I already did aquapolis in HW (gained 10 millions thanks to it), I already did dailies (I have max rank in every old tribes) and I certainly already levelled my jobs ages ago, spending countless hours in N.Thanalan and then spamming Vault and Library in HW. For a new player this might be all new but not all of us are new.

Can't we have something that is actually new and fresh or is that too much to ask?

[AmeliaVerves]

Can't we have something that is actually new and fresh or is that too much to ask?

Ofc it is not, but I think a relic is the wrong thing to expect something new and fresh from it. Even tho it is kinda bound to the new Eureka, I think it will be like Franko Gif. Same, same, same, different! But still the same.
Without wanting to sound rude or mean, maybe best is for you to spend a bit less time ingame then and/or find other (mini-) games you can play meanwhile we wait for new content?

As for me (and a lot of other players as well), I play generally less in summer, so it is kinda fitting my schedule to have less to do during that time and can be away for days without having to worry about getting lost or something. While this does ofc not apply to everyone, people like me are also taken into consideration from the Devs when working out Patch schedules, which is a good thing, or?

[Voltyblast]

Ofc it is not, but I think a relic is the wrong thing to expect something new and fresh from it. Even tho it is kinda bound to the new Eureka, I think it will be like Franko Gif. Same, same, same, different! But still the same.
Without wanting to sound rude or mean, maybe best is for you to spend a bit less time ingame then and/or find other (mini-) games you can play meanwhile we wait for new content?

As for me (and a lot of other players as well), I play generally less in summer, so it is kinda fitting my schedule to have less to do during that time and can be away for days without having to worry about getting lost or something. While this does ofc not apply to everyone, people like me are also taken into consideration from the Devs when working out Patch schedules, which is a good thing, or?

First of all, I agree with the relic debacle but we already know what we'll get in 4.1: 1 new dungeon (down from 2 from HW and 3 from ARR), the LFR thing and then relic in 4.15 (which is even LATER!!!! for crying out loud). Maybe an additional trial but they're ungodly toxic so that's out. Then they said they'll add "more content" which is legit to assume it will be sucky, since in 3.1 we had LoV and that died within 24 hours, including diadem. I might be pessimistic but what's to be optimistic about?

So not only we'll be waiting 6 months for basically the newest big patch, but said big patch might actually bring NOTHING good at all and have so little content that...well do I need to say that 3.1 basically made a lot of people go away? I know that because I was there when my friends left. Oh and new housing, good: can't wait to have them snatched by the mafia and sold at ten times the price. Because it works as intended!

And now you're even telling "us" to spend less time ingame and find other games while waiting for new content?

Are you....are you aware that if subscribers go away, the game will eventually die right? Is that what are you asking for? Not that I care but I'm extremely sure that nobody ever wanted their subscribers to take a break from THEIR SUBSCRIPTION BASED game and play other games. Infact every mmorpg I ever known always tried their best to keep their players playing and paying, whether f2p or not, so really am I in another dimension or something?
But if that's what you want then don't worry: more and more people will take your advice and perhaps not even come back.

PS: there are as many players who also play in summer, but either way you want your subscribers to stay and pay.

[AmeliaVerves]

And now you're even telling "us" to spend less time ingame and find other games while waiting for new content?

I am not telling anything to anyone and I am not the one in charge for less content, tho I can understand your frustration.

Also I am not trying to justify anything SE is doing, since I am kinda disappointed from some things here as well, I am trying to give a personal suggestion for a personal problem, to you personally, I am sorry for crossing a border there, I do realize it was a too forcing way to help.

Still, one of my arguments still stays: there actually is stuff that can be done, again: if you don't like/want it, fair enough, but that is a rather personal 'problem' than a general problem of the game lacking things to do. :/

[Felis]

First of all, I agree with the relic debacle but we already know what we'll get in 4.1: 1 new dungeon (down from 2 from HW and 3 from ARR), the LFR thing and then relic in 4.15 (which is even LATER!!!! for crying out loud). Maybe an additional trial but they're ungodly toxic so that's out. Then they said they'll add "more content" which is legit to assume it will be sucky, since in 3.1 we had LoV and that died within 24 hours, including diadem. I might be pessimistic but what's to be optimistic about?

You forgot "Return to Ivalice"

[Voltyblast]

Still, one of my arguments still stays: there actually is stuff that can be done, again: if you don't like/want it, fair enough, but that is a rather personal 'problem' than a general problem of the game lacking things to do. :/

I know there is "stuff", but it's not my fault if I don't like crafting, gathering, minion and mount collecting. I'm a pve player and the only Pve content is the roulettes, one raid (split into 4 bosses, I'm not that naive) and 2 trials , which will become obsolete anyway so after clearing once, they're dead: there is no other purpose to revisit unless you want the trial mounts. Which I don't care.

In other games I always have some incentives to do other things, like dailies or reputation grind for longterm rewards and even better exploration (heck GW2 did a great job at that, and even ESO wasn't too bad either). I never felt any reason to explore in this game - and the sightseeing log does a terrible job at making me want to explore - and there's currently no dailies to do right now and even then all dailies aren't great either besides mount collecting. Which I don't care.

I care about PvE content but the only PvE content I can do without trouble is roulettes, while trials and raids are toxic as hell and gave me some of the worst experience in my entire life, so I'm making sure to avoid them with my soul - and even if I wanted I live in another timezone. And I'm fairly sure this game is very pve centric so I doubt anyone can counter that statement....unless someone will pull out the pvp card but good luck with that!

You forgot "Return to Ivalice"

More like I didn't know the name but it's the 24 man raid planned for 4.1 in the style of crystal tower, with the usual weekly gear lock out and your usual easy-peasy fights that won't last more than 30 minutes.
I can't wait to be weekly locked after getting one piece of gear and having no other incentives to return until reset!

[SuperZay]

Yoshi hinted several times they may add relic armor sets to relic weapons. I'm speculating here, but I suppose it'll will be dyeble versions of AF3 armor (which were dyeble in press previews but not in 4.0). So maybe they need more time to prepare new questlines and cutscenes. Also they need to give more lifetime ro 24-man raid because relic armor will likely has customizable stats and higher ilevel.