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    4.15 is too late. the relic quest is cheap content wich can fill the gap between 4.0 and 4.1. didn't heavensward lost half the playerbase during the same time? we need something to do between the raids in the next 4 months
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    4.15 is too late. the relic quest is cheap content wich can fill the gap between 4.0 and 4.1. didn't heavensward lost half the playerbase during the same time? we need something to do between the raids in the next 4 months
    There are Crafting, Gathering, Hunts, side quests, Ixion Farming, Foxy farming, Off-job leveling + gearing, treasure maps, farming for minions to fill the time still. Maybe it's too slow for people who play a lot, but for people who don't/can't, a slower pace might be welcome since our to-do lists are already quite long. In other words, "too soon" and "too late" are subjective.
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    Last edited by Chalbee; 07-15-2017 at 07:39 AM. Reason: Clarity of purpose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    Crafting, Gathering, Hunts, side quests, Ixion Farming, Foxy farming, Off-job leveling + gearing, treasure maps, farming for minions...Maybe it's too slow for people who play a lot, but I only get to play for 2 hours a day, not even every day so I am grateful for a slower pace since my to-do list is already quite long. Just another perspective to consider...
    Stop trying to do everything all at once, and maybe you'll find yourself not having these problems.

    On-topic, they really should have released the first stage of 4.x's version of relic/anima in 4.0. There's no real point to delaying it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Stop trying to do everything all at once, and maybe you'll find yourself not having these problems.
    What problems? All I was trying to say is that "too late" and "too early" are subjective and based on what you want, how often you play etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It was that late back in HW too. And I agree, HW was pretty badly done for Relic quests...I much preferred ARR's, save for the Animus step (the books were absolute hell).
    The reason why it was late and also badly done for the first step was that was when they took a 2 week break, so things were a bit behind.

    I must be drinking the kool-aid then if you think the rest of HW was badly done. The crystal farming was easy, you didn't need your weapon or be in that job, you were even allowed to skip the first step if you had a relic in the past.

    The crafting part and item turn in was probably the only step that was a bit much. The only reason Umbrite became an issue was due to using too much tomes. You either spent it on getting crafting mats for gear or using it for the weapon....and only became more of an issue if you had alts that needed the tomes.


    The parts that did require you to go in with your weapon were easily cheesed by then, like A1s, or unsyncing half the content for the first step of the relic. For the rest of the stuff synced - if you couldn't do it for the weapon you're trying to create imo, you shouldn't have been in that job to being with
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    Come on SE at least release some stages with every patch. It really is a pain waiting for relics and some of us love doing them. That or give us a hint if we need to collect items and such -.- so we can start gathering them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    There are Crafting, Gathering, Hunts, side quests, Ixion Farming, Foxy farming, Off-job leveling + gearing, treasure maps, farming for minions to fill the time still. Maybe it's too slow for people who play a lot, but for people who don't/can't, a slower pace might be welcome since our to-do lists are already quite long. In other words, "too soon" and "too late" are subjective.
    True - it is also good gaming health to play other games to avoid burn out...I will be going back to Legion for 7.3 which should be at least 4 weeks before 4.1...so I'm fine with the relic/Eureka timing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    4.15 is too late. the relic quest is cheap content wich can fill the gap between 4.0 and 4.1. didn't heavensward lost half the playerbase during the same time? we need something to do between the raids in the next 4 months
    Yep it sure did, and if they don't drop 4.1 sooner we might have the same accident.

    And also

    Quote Originally Posted by Chalbee View Post
    There are Crafting, Gathering, Hunts, side quests, Ixion Farming, Foxy farming, Off-job leveling + gearing, treasure maps, farming for minions to fill the time still.
    Just no: not everyone likes crafting and gathering, and hunts are long dead - as they should be: they are trash and toxic showers anyway.
    Side quests...for what reason may I ask? Maybe Dailies could be a thing but...do you see any new dailies? I don't so....next one.
    Treasure maps...which give basically additional trash? They added aquapolis 2.0 but it's the same thing. Wasted potential there.
    And no, minion collecting is not content. Same for mount collecting. Or else WoW would say hi with their HUNDREDS of mounts and pets to collect! And just like crafting and gathering not everyone likes to collect them.
    And please stop saying Job leveling is content: it is not and on top of that you can only gear one job at the time (did you forget weekly cap?). Without mentioning that all the pwecious gear will become obsolete as soon as 4.1 (LFR will give 330 loot, making deltascape obsolete) and 4.2 (new 350 loot). It's a shame relics aren't out already because by the time 4.1 is out people will already have 330 weapons (from deltascape) and more than one at that...so relic will have the same end as 3.1: only the hardcore players will bother.

    On a side note, and what the eff is ixion and foxy farming?
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    Last edited by Voltyblast; 08-07-2017 at 10:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltyblast View Post
    And please stop saying Job leveling is content
    Can you please explain that 'argument' a bit further? Since Relic-Quests never really added new content, but rather made you the run the existing content over and over again I think it is rather invalid. :/

    Furthermore, I think Chalbee is right saying there is a lot of stuff that can be done already, if you don't want/like it, fair enough, but give others a chance to have time to do everything without being rushed too much, please.
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    I don't know, man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmeliaVerves View Post
    Can you please explain that 'argument' a bit further? Since Relic-Quests never really added new content, but rather made you the run the existing content over and over again I think it is rather invalid. :/

    Furthermore, I think Chalbee is right saying there is a lot of stuff that can be done already, if you don't want/like it, fair enough, but give others a chance to have time to do everything without being rushed too much, please.
    Relic quests aren't new content but considering the drought we're having (for the second time and at the same patch time if I may add), having some time waste such as a relic couldn't hurt. I don't like relics but right now I'd probably do them since I don't have much to do beside the usual roulette for tomes and doing Moogle dailies for leveling my crafters (because I'm not too fussed about leveling them, but dailies only take 30 minutes so it's okay). I'm not touching extreme with a stick since they're a cesspool of toxicity. Same for raiding.

    Also, I already DONE that content: I already did hunts in 2.3 (upgraded my entire 120 armor back then), I already did aquapolis in HW (gained 10 millions thanks to it), I already did dailies (I have max rank in every old tribes) and I certainly already levelled my jobs ages ago, spending countless hours in N.Thanalan and then spamming Vault and Library in HW. For a new player this might be all new but not all of us are new.

    Can't we have something that is actually new and fresh or is that too much to ask?
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