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    Rei_Zero's Avatar
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    Rei Zero
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    Cerberus
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    Weaver Lv 53
    SE fault, its a stressed job. You have to cure group, you have to make up errors for group, and you have to do a ton of DPS, controlling your mana. Besides you can't do mistakes, because if you are dead, its almost a wipe.

    I´m a casual WHM, who is trying Deltascape savage on a static party 7/8, we don't have a second healer, sometimes we get a healer only doing DPS straining to me in heals because stupid bad balance on this game from SE and toxic parties who only look for dps numbers.

    Besides, the 5 limit slot on basic skills doesn't help
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rei_Zero View Post
    SE fault, its a stressed job. You have to cure group, you have to make up errors for group, and you have to do a ton of DPS, controlling your mana. Besides you can't do mistakes, because if you are dead, its almost a wipe.
    Eeeh...this is the line of thought of someone who only plays healer. Try using a dps job in ex primals and savage raid and maximizing that dps. Chances are, you'll realize how soothing healing can be.
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    Rei Zero
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    Weaver Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Eeeh...this is the line of thought of someone who only plays healer. Try using a dps job in ex primals and savage raid and maximizing that dps. Chances are, you'll realize how soothing healing can be.
    Yeah, I only play healer, but healer is doing 2 jobs, healer and DPS. DPS one. I have to maximize too the cures, and the time I have for DPS, and have absolute control about mana consumption.

    If you (DPS) die, you can resurrect, if a Healer dies in a dungeon is wipe, in Raid stress for other healer and problems with mana when you get resurrected.

    This is SE fault, healers shouldn't have to do 1k-1.5k in raids. Besides, I have seen pretty rage with healers on PF.
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    Last edited by Rei_Zero; 08-07-2017 at 05:41 PM.

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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Rei_Zero View Post
    Yeah, I only play healer, but healer is doing 2 jobs, healer and DPS. DPS one. I have to maximize too the cures, and the time I have for DPS, and have absolute control about mana consumption.
    It's because the DD job requires as much activity as healer job only if the healer is both healing and DPSing (in most situations). If the healer is only healing, they will be much less active than a DD who is playing their job fully. I once did a dungeon run where I was only healing and was active for 17% of the dungeon, even with 35% overhealing...
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    Weaver Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    It's because the DD job requires as much activity as healer job only if the healer is both healing and DPSing (in most situations). If the healer is only healing, they will be much less active than a DD who is playing their job fully. I once did a dungeon run where I was only healing and was active for 17% of the dungeon, even with 35% overhealing...
    Healer should do DPS too, don't take wrong my words. This topic is about the OP can´t find a healer for Omega Savages. If OS4 need plenty of AOES cures and 1.5k DPS from each healer, is a bad design and stressful task for many healers. Toxic community to blame healers when wipe is not helping too.
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Rei_Zero View Post
    Healer should do DPS too, don't take wrong my words. This topic is about the OP can´t find a healer for Omega Savages. If OS4 need plenty of AOES cures and 1.5k DPS from each healer, is a bad design and stressful task for many healers. Toxic community to blame healers when wipe is not helping too.
    Well you were talking about dungeons too. I have raided as a healer (not anymore) and have always contributed in DPS in addition to healing. Now with being a DPS for raids, in my experience I'm now working just as hard as I did when I was healing and DPSing.
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    Balthier Mcmillan
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Rei_Zero View Post
    Healer should do DPS too, don't take wrong my words. This topic is about the OP can´t find a healer for Omega Savages. If OS4 need plenty of AOES cures and 1.5k DPS from each healer, is a bad design and stressful task for many healers. Toxic community to blame healers when wipe is not helping too.
    I think this is a strong reason as to why I switched roles. Many situations for me dealing DPS along with healing were heavily dependent on if my party/group seemed like they were managing ok (not eating poop & dodging avoidable attacks) then i would happily throw in damage as long as I left myself about a 40 - 40% MP threshold for healing situations minus the "oh crap" moments where I would have to pop a potion for hp/mp if I was out of mp regen cool down's. For that reason I've found it more enjoyable to explore other classes now that I originally never thought to give the time of day.
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    Last edited by jmotuck; 08-08-2017 at 12:30 PM. Reason: typo's

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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Eeeh...this is the line of thought of someone who only plays healer. Try using a dps job in ex primals and savage raid and maximizing that dps. Chances are, you'll realize how soothing healing can be.
    As someone who has both a DPS and Healer to 70 and has done Savage and EX primals as both a healer and a DPS, I guess it's just personal preference, but to me it feels SOOOOO less stressful to just DPS... Sure, the DPS rotation on actual DPS class is a lot more difficult to pull off, but that's all the DPS class is.
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