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    Accelerating's Avatar
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    Li'a Mimerya
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Umbeliel View Post
    Elaborate?
    DRK being a good MT because of Blood Price. No idea why any tank would ever be in tank stance after the first aggro combo.
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    Pixiline Paradigm
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Accelerating View Post
    DRK being a good MT because of Blood Price. No idea why any tank would ever be in tank stance after the first aggro combo.
    There's savage content with a static and then there's savage content with pugs. Personally, while progressing on a fight with 7 strangers (including the healers who may or may not be garbage) I think its poor etiquette to take this approach. When learning there are many times where turning your tank stance on can provide breathing room. Too often I see tanks come in to fights they are still learning with healers they don't know, wherein they never use tank stance, and leave it off even when they screw up and take a vuln stack, or the healers have to res somebody, etc.

    Even the most aggressive tanks know when to turn their tank stance on for the benefit of the group.

    As someone who has both raided an entire tier with a static and also lived the pug life, I think a better way to phrase this statement would be "No idea why any tank would ever be in tank stance on a fight they have cleared/are about to clear with healers they know/trust."
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    Last edited by SyzzleSpark; 08-06-2017 at 04:13 AM.

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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SyzzleSpark View Post
    I think its poor etiquette to take this approach.
    To build up on that, it's also nice to remember that unless you're in a competitive group that thrives for fast kills, no one cares if you keep your tank stance at the cost of a slighty slower kill, especially if the fight goes much smoother thanks to that safety net, and especially since you can't run Savage several times a week.
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    Felorr Bhakti
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    especially since you can't run Savage several times a week.
    You can do it as many times a week as you want, but I'm not sure how that plays into using tankstance anyway.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felorr View Post
    You can do it as many times a week as you want
    Sure, with a heavy loot penalty for the whole team, and not a single reward for you after your initial win...
    Quote Originally Posted by Felorr View Post
    but I'm not sure how that plays into using tankstance anyway.
    The only thing that tankstance make you lose is a bit of time, so again, apart from heavy competitive teams (So, basically, static) this "Avoid tankstance at all cost" mentality is meaningless.
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    Zipzo Zx
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    To build up on that, it's also nice to remember that unless you're in a competitive group that thrives for fast kills, no one cares if you keep your tank stance at the cost of a slighty slower kill, especially if the fight goes much smoother thanks to that safety net, and especially since you can't run Savage several times a week.
    This is almost precisely how I handle Grit in pugs...

    I'm sorry but if I'm in a pug with people I don't know healing me, I'm throwing my DPS aspirations to the wayside to do my real role and that's tank without dying. If I can plainly observe that my group is up to snuff and keeping me up ain't no thang and my healers seem bored then yeah, I'll turn Grit off and go ham, but I don't run with the "must be in DPS stance as much as possible" mindset in pugs. I run with a "only leave tank stance if things are going well and it doesn't seem like it will hinder us" mindset in pugs.
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