I do not have a "Main" I want to gear all jobs, change weekly gatings?

[Snow_Princess]

I also secondary AST and RDM, and both are geared enough to run Savage, if I so chose. So, I fail to still see how I'm being gated behind capped tomestones. This can also hold true for others who realizethat being "geared" =/= magicial ilvl 340.

I do not appreciate putting words in my mouth

Unfortunately I don't think this argument ever will come to a good conclusion as the same arguments constantly get tossed around with everyone being completely blind or unsympathetic to anyone's situation other than their own.

You have the group of people that already have a great static and fc, that already have a raid spot, all the support they need, and have no issues accomplishing anything they want in game. Nothing is wrong to these people as they have no issues. They say, "make friends and join us!". While being oblivious to the fact that when it comes down to putting their money where their mouth is they are cliquey and aren't looking for new friends (or at least the majority of others aren't). But hey... they are living the high life and everything smells like roses... right?

There are those that are passionate about changing things for the better. But they are not part of the "cool crowd" and too often divided amongst themselves. Many just quit without ever saying a word. Lack of visibility and division in how they imagine fixing the issues keeps them crippled.

Then you get the people who are fine with never doing savage. Just want social fun and ascetics. They are perfectly happy with how things are because they aren't even looking for the end of the road. They are having fun doing whatever it is they do and all is good. Stop and smell the roses right? Why have larger goals?

Which btw, all these types are fine... Nothing wrong with being who or what you are... But what is wrong is the complete lack of empathy between them. Noone cares to look over the fence and see how the other side are doing. Those who do step out of line and play the devil's advocate are vilified. So these conversations always fail to reach compromise. Everyone is right, noone but them could possibly have a valid opinion... And the cycle continues... If we had good conversations where people respected others opinions we might be able to find something that we all can live with but why be productive? It's so much easier just to keep doing this...