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  1. #21
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    As someone whop boosted this makes me sad. I go out of my wayto study learn and practice the jobs I'm playing. I'm maining monk and curently am looking up videos for astro, drk and sam. I wouldn't have gotten into the game had the boost not been here. It's not the potion, it's the mindset. I was just in the 55 dungeon with a tank who didn't boost but had level 50 gear on every slot and complained to the healer to " be a good healer" when he was at fault. I may not be the norm but I think most people who boost aren't the ones you're running into being bad. :c Maybe I shouldn't defend it.. but I can't help it when I'm doing my best and I'm one of those " Boosted" characters. :c
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  2. #22
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I mean, to be fair, yes, the ones we'll complain about are just the ones that stand out. And chances are the "good" boosted players are the ones we likely will never even notice as boosted.
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  3. #23
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zayedan View Post
    Please remove it for new players and make it only available for accounts with a Max lvl job.

    1- its killing the endgame and Duty Finder groups, the noobs can learn to play the way we did in ARR. its REALLY becoming more frustrating now more than POTD noobs getting to max level.
    2- Most noobs who buy it, dont stay for long, easy get easy go. they get to 70 in less than 5 days, get bored and stop subbing.
    3- its an RPG, they should take the time and appreciate the game as we did, these people take it all for granted.
    4- stop being greedy this is not WOW, alot of us left WOW because of this level boost back in Cataclysm
    1. By grinding FATEs, PotD or Leves? I took Dragoon from 34 to 52 in literally one day grinding nothing but FATEs for 10+ hours. I did the same with Dark Knight thanks to the Yokai event.
    2. Then who cares? They'll leave and SE pockets money. This is not how you convince a company to stop selling something.
    3. Like the thousands of other players who skip every cut scene? You know those prominent streamers like Mrhappy, Mizzteq and Xeno? Yeah, they skip every single cut scene because they care more about raiding. Granted, MrHappy and Mizz watch them in the inn later. Still, they have done more for the community than most. Not eagerly watching every cut scenes doesn't mean you can't be or aren't a good player.
    4. A lot more people picked up WoW because they didn't have to slog through multiple expansions.

    Put all this aside, people who care will seek to improve of their own volition. Those who couldn't be bothered will never care no matter the obstacle to bar their path. I looked up guides on Youtube the moment I started leveling the aforementioned jobs. A jump potion is simply necessary due to how the MSQ is structured. Some people do not care about story, but enjoy the social interactions, raids, crafting or whatever other feature FFXIV offers. Running Braxflox and Stone Vigil isn't going to miraculously teach someone anything nor is completing the MSQ or job quests that don't even mention the abilities you learn. Jump potions aren't killing anything. People were bad when Gordias, Midas and Creator all dropped. They will be bad when Omega 5-8 drops and bad once more when 9-12 rolls around. This isn't even unique to FFXIV or MMOs. You will always have people who just don't care to improve. It sucks getting paired with them, but c'est la vie. Taking away jump potions won't change a thing.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 08-02-2017 at 04:41 PM.

  4. #24
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sonicadventures View Post
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    And I appreciate you bringing forth your viewpoint. You're willing to take advice and improve yourself, so we don't have an issue with you. I hope you're enjoying the game though!
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  5. #25
    Player RaizeGraymalkin's Avatar
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    Volta Fross
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 61
    *sighs* it's not the boosts. It's the players. I say this constantly. Bad will bad and good will be good. Period. And the much vaunted "sky is falling cuz teh potions" never happened. The game and skill level is still where it was before, despite people saying the game would be ruined because of it.
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  6. #26
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Its why in all honesty a dungeon like Sirensong is as easy as Sastasha. Yes we got more buttons to play with, yes its a higher level, but its also a dungeon that a tank could auto-pilot half asleep with very basic bosses.
    Hyperbole aside, the ease of Sirensong has nothing whatsoever to do with jump potion and simply follows their accessibility trend. The devs have said on numerous occasions they wanted initial content to be easier for people. Susano and Lakshmi are arguably the two easiest extremes ever released and even V1 Savage is a joke. What about pre-Stormblood? Xelphatol was so undertuned, tanks were pulling the room day one and dropping tank stance while still in Lore gear. Trials haven't been difficult since Nidhogg and even the current dungeons only pose a higher challenge because people cling to Shire gear for as long as possible. There just isn't any correlation between the ease of most content and jump potion because said decreased difficult has been present since before the jump potion even existed.

    The reason you may be seeing a higher volume of "bad" players is due to the expansion itself attracting new people. Anecdotal evidence is rather meaningless. I've had only a few bad parties and two vote abandons on Shinryu. I wouldn't say that represents DF, just as it's disingenuous to say jump potions are causing an influx of awful players.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 08-02-2017 at 05:17 PM.

  7. #27
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    Noah Dotharl
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I did an expert roulette with a BLM yesterday who insisted on casting Fire I between every Fire IV "To Keep UF up" after a brief conversation turns out this guy usually plays a healer but wanted to try DPS so he paid and got his BLM boosted. He was not a new player but he was an awful BLM.

    Playing this game from lvl 1 - 60 does not give you super powers to understand game mechanics or make you a good player, the good players are the ones who take time to learn about their class and how to maximize their abilities you can do that from 60 - 70 if you want to be a good player or you can level using bare the minimum and basically leach off your team mates in duties and rely on the echo for single player main scenario instances.
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  8. #28
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    The boost pots were MEANT for the Noobs.

    "hey come play this game with me, but first you gotta go through 3 weeks straight of fetch quests, and old iterations of dungeons even I don't remember how to do."
    nobody wants that.
    I've gotten 5 friends to play this game with me thanks to the boosts, they're still enjoying it and have worked hard to learn their Jobs and Roles. Some of them were even people who'd TRIED 1.0 and said yuck and left, the boost was the extra little push they needed to jump in. The assurance that hey, I HAVE been playing for a long time, but you can jump right in and be a part of the same content I'm diving into now.
    Every game is going to have selfish and unskilled players who don't want to improve or don't care. You put enough stubborn time in you'll get to 70 with or without skill. It sucks you seem to be getting the lions share of those, but in my experience they are few and far between.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  9. #29
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    De'anair'a Solanae
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    I'm sure I'm hated for being one that did that.

    I got not only a 60 boost but a story boost for an Alt. I decide. Hmm let's do a lvl 50/60 dungeon daily roulette thingy. I figure I did them a lot what could go so wrong?

    I got a hard mode! The Gubul Library (Hard). Never did it... Never wanted to... and yet the darn story boost unlocked it? ; ; Anyway things went well I suppose. I only showed my unfamiliarity with things on the last boss and died twice. I was so sorry that I burdened the group with my failness... Now I'm terrified to do the daily Roulette for fear of another Hard that I have never done on my main.

    Edit: So anyway. I can feel for those that blame others that boost. But I won't blame the whole lot of them. Not all of us (Not me... I'm obviously bad!) are bad players.
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    Last edited by TitaniaZero; 08-02-2017 at 05:29 PM.

  10. #30
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    Darkobra's Avatar
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    It's an MMO. What difficulty? "Stay out the yellow circles that will be cast in 5 seconds at the exact location I will show you!"
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