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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    It is not asking for lights to be nerfed, it is asking for sands/umbirte to be nerfed
    No? 260 is not the umbrite stage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raiya View Post
    Can we have the anima 260 condensation stage nerfed for 4.06?
    The Zodiac weapon got nerfed after it had been irrelevant for a while, no reason that the Anima won't receive the same treatment.
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    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syfurion View Post
    No? 260 is not the umbrite stage.


    The Zodiac weapon got nerfed after it had been irrelevant for a while, no reason that the Anima won't receive the same treatment.
    "You need umberites/ sands for 260, I do not know what "anima 260 condensation stage" means. I commented based what it meant to me. For 2.0 relics, I do not even know what they did to nerf that, if it is really talking about lights how do they propose to nerf it? the TC is not clear."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    "You need umberites/ sands for 260, I do not know what "anima 260 condensation stage" means. I commented based what it meant to me. For 2.0 relics, I do not even know what they did to nerf that, if it is really talking about lights how do they propose to nerf it? the TC is not clear."
    The light stage was nerfed by greatly increasing how much Light a run generated. The stage right at the end where you need to gather Light for the Atma stones, for example, each Atma can be completed with two unsynced Tam-Tara runs, a single run if the Light bonus window happens to grace you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    "You need umberites/ sands for 260, I do not know what "anima 260 condensation stage" means. I commented based what it meant to me. For 2.0 relics, I do not even know what they did to nerf that, if it is really talking about lights how do they propose to nerf it? the TC is not clear."


    Umbrites/sands is 240 step, not 260. 260 is running HW content over and over to generate aetheric density and power up your weapon to 270.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keoeson View Post
    Great idea, get other people to waste hours only to finish a glamour weapon.
    Yep, that is exactly what it is there for, an achievement/ glam weapon. Does nothing as far as gating progress, there is i270 weapons for hand me gear. (and something easily to get before level 60) You do not need to nerf relics so bad it becomes hand me gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonkyn20 View Post
    Umbrites/sands is 240 step, not 260. 260 is running HW content over and over to generate aethericdensity and power up your weapon to 270.
    That is your view on what the title means "anima 260 condensation stage" is what is put in the title, going 240>260 is condensing to me:


    Simple request: Can we have the anima 260 condensation stage nerfed for 4.06?

    I'm not expecting much of course on this but does any of the mods know if theres any plans to reduce the amount of farming needed for this stage? Its ridiculously long for a weapon that is no longer Top of the line but you realistically cannot finish before hitting lvl70. I dont see why this should remain as it is till October possibly with 4.1 for something so tedious.
    The only way you can gain items before lv 70, meaning the level before you can equip it, is collecting items for the relic, basically buying all the poetic items before you start (something the person I am posting for did in HW in fact, she got 2 relics in 4 days because she stored enough items prior of starting the quests for 2) So based on the weird wording of the title, and the fact asking for the ability to finish them BEFORE 70, means they where talking about the umbite/sand stage "condensation"

    I ask everyone stop jumping on my back for reading a vague post differently then expected, even the 2.0 relics don't let you finish them or even start them? before 50 because it is actual farming, not item collecting. You need to actually be able to equip the weapon.

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    If you do not even suggest how to change something, you can't blame people for saying no.
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    Everyone else understood the 260 condensation as the light farming. Maybe it's time to accept that you have no idea bout it and are just denying it as valid request for the sake of denying it...

    As for the argument, it's very simple. It never was an "achievement". It was a "chore" meant to give the best weapon available for those that manage to finish it. But it no longer is the best weapon. The achievement was HAVING THE BEST WEAPON. Which it is not at all, not by far, anymore. Hence the "chore" part can very well be reduced to a reasonable stage.

    There's also a very big reason for that, one that you achievement this, achievement that people seem to forget. There is a STORY to that weapon. Yes. At this point the weapon is irrelevant, but I know that at least for me, the STORY LINE of making that weapon is interesting. And this is an RPG game based around a story.

    Why people need to waste hours upon hours to get a skin of a weapon, in order to get to read the story?! The reward is no longer valid. At all. There are MANY glamours for weapons, far more accessible and not inferior. But the story is unique to the relic. There no longer is any achievement to it anyway. Achievement was getting it when it was still relevant. Right now, people can solo stuff that is required for it without any difficulty. It's just grind. You don't hear people "Look at me! I'm so great! What an achievement! I reached lvl70!". Cause it's no achievement. It's going to happen so long as you spend enough time. Same here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
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    Well, technically it is an achievement weapon since all the HW relics had a few achievements(well, 6 to be exact) attached to completing them.

    However, if they nerfed the light needed, what is it to me? I don't care if people get it easier just so they can glam it. It's really no skin off my back if they do nerf it(eventually I will get the rest of them...but for now I'm content with having my PLD, DRG, DRK, BLM, and almost my AST - AST is on the light farm part now)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I see them on Aether every now and then. Not sure how fast they fill up, but they are present from time to time.
    They actually still fill up in a decent amount of time! One of my FC mates hosted one everyday for 3 days and finished their AST.


    Personally I don't care if they nerf it sooner or later. Once they do, though, I'll probably start another
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    That is your view on what the title means "anima 260 condensation stage" is what is put in the title, going 240>260 is condensing to me:
    Well you're wrong on that account. 240-260 is NOT the condensation step.

    This is the breakdown to how Anima works:

    1) Gathering crystals from the HW region (fate grinding)) to create your base level 170 weapon.
    2) Running specific dungeons to increase your weapon's strength to 200.
    3) Collecting various materials to finally 'create' your anima weapon, which is at 210.
    4) obtaining 5 pots of aether oil to increase your anima's power to 230.
    5) Collecting Umbrite and Crystal Sand to customize your anima's stats as well as alter it's appearance and increase it's power to 240.
    6) Collecting 50 Singing Clusters to further increase your anima to 260.
    7) Running more dungeons, collecting 15 Pneumite to create a new soulstone for your final weapon alteration, and doing HW content to increase your aetheric density, eventually bringing it's strength to 270.
    8) Finally, you run trials for the final upgrade to 275.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonkyn20 View Post
    Well you're wrong on that account. 240-260 is NOT the condensation step.This is the breakdown to how Anima works:

    1) Gathering crystals from the HW region (fate grinding)) to create your base level 170 weapon.
    2) Running specific dungeons to increase your weapon's strength to 200.
    3) Collecting various materials to finally 'create' your anima weapon, which is at 210.
    4) obtaining 5 pots of aether oil to increase your anima's power to 230.
    5) Collecting Umbrite and Crystal Sand to customize your anima's stats as well as alter it's appearance and increase it's power to 240.
    6) Collecting 50 Singing Clusters to further increase your anima to 260.
    7) Running more dungeons, collecting 15 Pneumite to create a new soulstone for your final weapon alteration, and doing HW content to increase your aetheric density, eventually bringing it's strength to 270.
    8) Finally, you run trials for the final upgrade to 275.
    I know how it works (well I mean I did find out before posting here from my friend explaining it) but both of us, even now after you broke it down, find that word use of "condensation stage " uniting and confused what it meant. Since the full post was vague, (does not bring up "farming lights' at all, and all stages is a 'grind' it was concluded it meant bringing all the items you collect together, as getting to 260 is the last of the major items and what you can buy up before being level 60. It is also confusing why one would be worried about when they obtain a glam weapon, since you are going getting the 2.0 upgraded leveling 50-70 as a side effect.

    People can have different interpretations on what is being said, you can't blame us for having a different view on interpretation. Where in your list explains what a " condensation step" means?
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