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    Quote Originally Posted by RLofOBFL View Post
    Snip.
    No, the 1.5% dps difference is a full Tenacity build vs non-Tenacity build with crafted accessories.

    In a fight like V3S, I personally do 1.74M damage, the boss had 16.4M HP.
    1.5% is 26K which is 0.15% of its HP... There a a lot of things a group needs to optimize/fix if they enrage for that droplet of damage...

    And in case people aren\\'t aware, Angered\\'s V4S world first had their tank mostly with Tenacity melds.
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    Sarcatica Lin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkyo View Post
    No, the 1.5% dps difference is a full Tenacity build vs non-Tenacity build with crafted accessories.

    In a fight like V3S, I personally do 1.74M damage, the boss had 16.4M HP.
    1.5% is 26K which is 0.15% of its HP... There a a lot of things a group needs to optimize/fix if they enrage for that droplet of damage...

    And in case people aren\\'t aware, Angered\\'s V4S world first had their tank mostly with Tenacity melds.
    Oh look, Raffter has 1.2k DH. I wonder what that means.

    You did 1.74M damage due to your less Grit uptime, Tenacity isn't the big reason why your DPS is high.
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    Dizzy Dash
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinkyo View Post
    No, the 1.5% dps difference is a full Tenacity build vs non-Tenacity build with crafted accessories.

    In a fight like V3S, I personally do 1.74M damage, the boss had 16.4M HP.
    1.5% is 26K which is 0.15% of its HP... There a a lot of things a group needs to optimize/fix if they enrage for that droplet of damage...

    And in case people aren\\'t aware, Angered\\'s V4S world first had their tank mostly with Tenacity melds.
    It does seem to be affecting you more than you know. 1.74 is low for v3 and assuming it's not a skill issue then it's a fairly large gap from ten to dh because I'm fully melded dh and did 1.98m even though I screwed up and lost a berserk activation between book phase and adds. The ten is quite a bit weaker for mitigation that is irrelevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp View Post
    It does seem to be affecting you more than you know. 1.74 is low for v3 and assuming it's not a skill issue then it's a fairly large gap from ten to dh because I'm fully melded dh and did 1.98m even though I screwed up and lost a berserk activation between book phase and adds. The ten is quite a bit weaker for mitigation that is irrelevant.
    I never said my dps was high on V3 and nor did I attribute it to tenacity.
    My dps is on DRK and I'm in grit more than I should. Also, there are some phase where I know I'm sacrificing uptime for mechanics that's still a risk to my group.
    All my saying is that the difference between your dps and mine aside from the class (DRK does lower dps than war, that's just how it is) is largely due to uptime, tank stance downtime and party optimization.
    Just changing my substats would not fill that much of a gap. No doubt DH is higher dps, but it's not going to increase my dps by even 5%.
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