Tank BIS is crafted acc's, that's a problem.

[Dizzy_Derp]

Tank scaling is really really bad on accessories, 1 str to every 10 ilvls. Something needs to be done about it because it is costing millions and millions of gil to get tanks bis when every other class gets to just go for raid and tome gear.
I know se didn't want to give tanks any scaling on right side but having us scale like this means we are back to gordias where tanks have to overmeld crafted.
If this doesn't change we will be forced to pentameld accessories all expansion and as someone with alts, it's really expensive.
Please se look at what's going on because in no world should crafted eclipse the raid and tome gear the way it does for tanks right now.

[Mirch]

Just do more duties u spend less. Ez. Adventurer in need in lvling is 1 VIs per clear, u can get Vs in dungs too, u can sell VIs to buy Vs. Ez ez

[FallenWings]

Just do more duties u spend less. Ez. Adventurer in need in lvling is 1 VIs per clear, u can get Vs in dungs too, u can sell VIs to buy Vs. Ez ez

Wat.

The problem is not just about needing gil. It's the fact that only tanks have to get pentamelded accessories if they want the best gear. Not only that but it also makes savage fending accessories virtually dead drops for personal and group gear progression.

[aqskerorokero]

That's why I have only 4 jobs capped and omnicrafter......

[The_Last_Dragoon]

Tank scaling is really really bad on accessories, 1 str to every 10 ilvls. Something needs to be done about it because it is costing millions and millions of gil to get tanks bis when every other class gets to just go for raid and tome gear.
I know se didn't want to give tanks any scaling on right side but having us scale like this means we are back to gordias where tanks have to overmeld crafted.
If this doesn't change we will be forced to pentameld accessories all expansion and as someone with alts, it's really expensive.
Please se look at what's going on because in no world should crafted eclipse the raid and tome gear the way it does for tanks right now.

This problem is mainly being caused because of how weak the Tenacity stat is right now and because of the fact that raising Direct Hit via melds is so effective. Most of these problems will probably be addressed in 3.1 when they roll out the new gear since that's where the problem is coming from. Though, this is great for the Goldsmiths right now because they probably won't be able to take advantage of the market like this for the rest of this expansion. It's not like they get to make high priced glamour gear like Weaver, Leatherworker, and Blacksmith. In terms of the melding, Mirch is right in that you can very easily get VI materia from the roulette since it's not a daily bonus and tanks are more than likely the adventurer in need.

It's the fact that only tanks have to get pentamelded accessories if they want the best gear. Not only that but it also makes savage fending accessories virtually dead drops for personal and group gear progression.

Savage drops tokens, so you wouldn't ever get "dead" drops in a savage duty, I think you're talking about extreme primals since they actually drop non-token based loot. Also, the OP was complaining about gil problems due to the need to penta-meld their crafted tank accessories in order to have max dps.

[Galactimus]

Savage drops tokens, so you wouldn't ever get "dead" drops in a savage duty, I think you're talking about extreme primals since they actually drop non-token based loot. Also, the OP was complaining about gil problems due to the need to penta-meld their crafted tank accessories in order to have max dps.

Huh? I think you may be unclear on something. Savage has always dropped two physical pieces of loot per turn. And more recently (past year) they added a Token drop (Page 1-4.) O1S for example always drops two i340 Accessories, and if these are Fending Accessories, they are essentially dead drops for Tanks that were forced to bring Penta-melds.


It's Omega Normal (Story Mode) and Alexander Normal (Story Mode) that drop nothing but Tokens.

[DacienSanderon]

This problem is mainly being caused because of how weak the Tenacity stat is right now and because of the fact that raising Direct Hit via melds is so effective.

No and no. Tenacity is not weak, and dh melds are not "so effective". Please stop repeating that drivel as it's been demonstrated to be false many times. It's like some dps wannabe fanboy who rolled the wrong job declared that even the tiniest of damage increase is better than any amount of damage reduction and all the mindless sheep just assumed he was right.

[Sarcatica]

No and no. Tenacity is not weak, and dh melds are not "so effective". Please stop repeating that drivel as it's been demonstrated to be false many times. It's like some dps wannabe fanboy who rolled the wrong job declared that even the tiniest of damage increase is better than any amount of damage reduction and all the mindless sheep just assumed he was right.

The paltry damage reduction barely does anything. DH is king and that's a fact you have to get by. See any serious raiding tanks and you will ask why Tenacity is even there.

If any you are the sheep telling people Tenacity is better than DH because all the top groups feature full DH melds for tanks, that's not fabricated.

[Dizzy_Derp]

This problem is mainly being caused because of how weak the Tenacity stat is right now we
the OP was complaining about gil problems due to the need to penta-meld their crafted tank accessories in order to have max dps.

they adjust scaling every patch, there is no way to tell if it will be better because we will adjust the weight. If stats worked like that we wld be at a 1 second gcd with our ss by now. And either way crafted will still be the best because you can get way more weight from the secondaries than you can from the 1 or 2 extra str.
And it's not just a gil issue, it's a time issue because your gonna be grinding for it and an unnessicary wall that tanks have to get over but other classes are unaffected by. It's a gearing oversight that we needs to be aware of.

[The_Last_Dragoon]

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I'm not sure if you're on an alt or what, but you really can't weigh in on knowledge about the current state of end-game when you aren't even there yet.

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In terms of time, tanks usually can queue for things much quicker than a dps job can, so it will reasonably take a lot longer for a dps to gear themselves via end-game duties. The other classes also can't farm for rank VI materia tokens through the DF like tanks can, so they have to do SB Hunts in order to get their materia. Granted, you do need to do more duties than they have to do Hunts, but this whole situation should be temporary. As a tank you could just say "screw the BiS" and just put on tome Str accessories with Vitality melds, I don't think anyone would stop you from doing any of the end game content because of it.