A consern about space efficieny since stormblood is not getting enough space increase

[Lycieus]

"but it is not so far off"

Something something I want it now.

I'm starting to think we have another troll.

[Krotoan]

does 2 dollars a retainer really break the bank for all y'all?

Skip one small meal. Or even a starbucks drink.. Poof.. retainers.

I will admit the systems themselves need work, but the extra space is available if you'd like to pay for it and the money you DO pay for it allows them to keep working on it.

all in all I am in favor of a wider range of things store-able in the armory chest though, and the currencies are kinda dumb. Why have inventory hogging currencies?

there are problems, but there are also solutions available, just not for free.

[Lycieus]

does 2 dollars a retainer really break the bank for all y'all?

Skip one small meal. Or even a starbucks drink.. Poof.. retainers.

I will admit the systems themselves need work, but the extra space is available if you'd like to pay for it and the money you DO pay for it allows them to keep working on it.

all in all I am in favor of a wider range of things store-able in the armory chest though, and the currencies are kinda dumb. Why have inventory hogging currencies?

there are problems, but there are also solutions available, just not for free.

Why are we paying(monthly) for solutions that literally every other game offers for free or for a one-time fee in the case of f2p games? It's not that I can't afford two dollars, it's more of a matter of why would I when there are better options for less money?

[Krotoan]

Why are we paying(monthly) for solutions that literally every other game offers for free or for a one-time fee in the case of f2p games? It's not that I can't afford two dollars, it's more of a matter of why would I when there are better options for less money?

For access to the servers, for maintenance to those servers. For the hours of voicework and production that went into the content that is constantly being updated. For the people who are on-call when the servers get DDOS'd and when you have problems in the middle of the night. This is what I pay for.
I play Guildwars 2, I have purchased many storage expansions. I played vindictus, I bought storage there too.
I did weigh out whether 2 dollars.. (or 4 in my case) more a month was worth it to me to have the extra storage AND selling space AND ventures per hour. It's worth it to me. I personally don't feel I'm owed any more than was originally available when the game released. It's not like we got boondoggled into thinking more storage was going to keep happening.
Per month I spend less money on this game than I do on many "free to play" games. Most of the cosmetics in this game are included, most mounts, speed boosts, XP buffs all attainable ingame for just time invested.
yes there are mogstation items you can buy. I get that. I guess I just see enough value in what I'm paying for already to validate paying a little more to enhance my current game.

as I said before though, I agree there is some crazy item bloat going on though, so many things could be consolidated or turned into non inventory consuming numbers.

[SokiYagami]

there are problems, but there are also solutions available, just not for free.

Are people seriously threatening to unsub over inventory space?

I understand that it's not ideal, but unsubbing seems incredibly petty.

And this is the problem we have with modern gaming. Publishers tried to sell a product that is missing certain features considered a norm at a similar price and there are still people who not only accept it as right, but also defend this questionable decision against anyone who dares question it. You know what's the best part? When there are people who give up or considering to do so, said defenders call them petty for doing so. If this isn't blind white knighting, I don't know what it is. I mean come on! It's fine you don't agree with the people requesting for the change, but when they choose to vote with their wallet, can you at least spare us the smirky snarky comment?

And let me try to convince the rest of you who don't have inventory issue, this change can still benefit you, yes, you, someone who excel at inventory management and have no space issues. Assuming the suggestions are implemented decently (not even ground-breaking or out of this world, just good enough), having a glamour log makes it easier to find stuff since it serve as an all-in-one location to access your gears. It can be sorted by jobs > category > levels and comes with a search box that support partial text search. Or it can be sorted by events/job quest/veteran rewards instead. Sounds familiar? I'm sure you do, it's what the mb/crafting log/armoire do. Gone are the days where you have to dig through your retainers/armoire or trace down which NPC you can repurchase the gear from, just one interface to rule them all.

Similar rules apply to currency. In a single UI window, common currency section that is unaffected by expansion for your gil/GC & hunt seals/scripts then expansion grouped section for primal/beast tribes/raid tokens, all under your currency page at one glance. No more cluttering of your inventory. Out of sight, out of mind.

Same thing goes on for tackle box and condensing of crafting/gathering materials, but since I'm not too familiar with those, I'll leave it to the other users to expand upon the possibility in case anyone is wondering.

TL;DR: please come up with some better counter argument if you're against this QoL request and/or stop being a selfish insert-random-insult-here. Or you know, just ignore this thread thank you.

[Krotoan]

, can you at least spare us the smirky comment?

when did I say anything other than in a respectful and reasonable way? And did you mean snarky? smirky? I'm not familiar with that term.
it's not white knighting to present a different view.
SE is still a company, and will do everything they can to bring in revenue. This is a given. However I don't feel we're being "ripped off" or shortchanged. This is a difference of opinion, not an unwarranted defense of them. They are doing many good things and a few cruddy things. My purpose in posting is to present my view and possibly broaden how you or anyone else following this thread sees the situation.

[SokiYagami]

when did I say anything other than in a respectful and reasonable way? And did you mean snarky? smirky? I'm not familiar with that term.
it's not white knighting to present a different view.
SE is still a company, and will do everything they can to bring in revenue. This is a given. However I don't feel we're being "ripped off" or shortchanged. This is a difference of opinion, not an unwarranted defense of them. They are doing many good things and a few cruddy things. My purpose in posting is to present my view and possibly broaden how you or anyone else following this thread sees the situation.

The snarky (thanks for correcting me, I'm still working on my English) and more or less white knighting portion was directed at Kaiden. The "shortchanged" part (by your words) was directed at you. When a company put a product up on (in?) the market, customers will inevitably compare it to similar products already present in the market. Inventory space is an issue with some players, and when certain methods that can help ease said issue is common in other similar products (hence a standard) is missing over here, and the only "solution" SE can provide now is additional charges on top of complaining about server issue all the time, it's really hard to give them the benefit of doubt.

If I'm watching a drama right now, the dialog would be something like this:

"Oh hey listen up, we know some of you been having issues with inventory space, but we can't give you more of them because #server-issues, but you can rent it instead for $2 a month. Just take it, and go."

And let's be fair, as much as I love XIV, SE reputation is... just do a quick google yeah? I hope we can get some quality QoL changes in the future.

[Maero]

Purchasing retainers is NOT the solution, myself i have 5 total (some have housing items, others crafting mats, etc.) and all are full.
Perhaps they should have also increased retainer space since many of us are actually paying extra for those.
The "increase" i guess it was something, but not nearly enough space. Space issues are problems for possibly gatherers, for sure crafters and those that love glam

[Paladinleeds]

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So, I do have the means to purchase extra retainers (though 2 free + 2 paid seems to be enough inventory space for me to work with), however, there are those that have already rented 6 extra retainers. For a total of 8. They're still struggling with inventory space and SE won't even let them throw more money at them to hire extra retainers. Though SE shouldn't be nickle and diming us for retainers, if I'm being truthfully honest. I've made excuses for this in the past (albeit inadvertently) but people are right, there is definitely a problem here.

And, as the problem becomes more and more acute, more and more people are going to tell FFXIV to "Shove it" and quit, and will go to other games that aren't as nickle and dimey. There are people here who are quitting over it, and this means less revenue for SE. And I expect there'll be a lot of "Silent quitters" too (those who quit without saying anything).

[Solarra]

does 2 dollars a retainer really break the bank for all y'all?

What if it does? Looking down on people with lower incomes and implying they should simply cut out a couple of luxuries and pay up is both rude and condescending. It is also totally missing the point. This is a subscription game, we shouldn't have to pay extra for basic utilities. Extra retainers are supposed to be a luxury, not absolutely necessary to play the game. The expanded Armoury was a step in the right direction but it isn't anywhere near enough, it's still hard to level multiple classes and store all the gear-sets needed for them along with their glamours.

I do agree that the currency tab should be expanded and that the Armoire needs to be made more useful. Quite a few times recently I've decided against buying glamour from the Mog-station because I know I'll have trouble storing it. If I could put it in the Amoire it would be different, but paying for the gear and then paying even more money to rent the space to store it is something I'm not prepared to do.