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  1. #31
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    Seradima's Avatar
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    Astrelle Vailette
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    Read it again. PVP only change.
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  2. #32
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    YitharV2's Avatar
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    Arnar Grande
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    Ultros
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seradima View Post
    Read it again. PVP only change.
    Oh yeah you're right.

    Why does PvP get all the good changes?

    PvP never had the stance dance penalty too.
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  3. #33
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    Princess_Momoka's Avatar
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    Prototype Zero
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Yeah, and if they're losing 15% of their health standing in stuff, they're doing it wrong.
    They where not "standing in stuff" it is a single frame, those moves with the ground indicators just appeared.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcanoJones View Post
    AN instant stoneskin does not sound useless to me. They are constantly rebalancing the game. That's what MMOs do.
    You can't use it for prepull when it only lasts for 10 seconds, it is not an enhanced stoneskin. It is weaker in a way you can't freely cast it and you need to be 66, not 34 +

    Also isn't Adloquium > Divine Benison anyway? so not only does Adloquium heal more, shield more, lasts longer, has no CD it is also not restrictive cept for the mp cost nerf.


    WHY bring a whm for shielding? I guess it is good for war? for a 309 AST, Aspected Benefic heals for 4100, that is a 10250 shield, someone would need about 70K hp for a DB to match it, on a crit it was 6200 that gives you a 1550 shield, or need to cast DB with someone 105k Hp (about) for a 304 sch, Adloquium is 5100-5300 and 7858 crit. So how come WHM has no prepull shielding and DB is so restrictive when other classes that have free casting ablities that are better then it (and in ast's case, instant as well, just not ogcd but it has a 2 sec recast)

    So I guess useless is the wrong word to use, but it is subpar. I think they got rid of stoneskin because of role actions since healers and pld got access to it.. speaking of...
    5100 with buffed Aspected Benefic, 12750 shield, crit 7100, 17750 shield. (know anyone that can get 118k hp?) fully buffed like that is on a 90 sec CD That is only 309 though, you can be 320 + now, or 320 on pure crafted gear.
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    Last edited by Princess_Momoka; 07-24-2017 at 01:43 AM.

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  4. #34
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    Vaer's Avatar
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    WHY bring a whm for shielding?
    I thought that's the point though? If you want shields you bring a noct AST or a scholar not a WHM or diurnal AST.
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  5. #35
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    Princess_Momoka's Avatar
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    Prototype Zero
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    I thought that's the point though? If you want shields you bring a noct AST or a scholar not a WHM or diurnal AST.
    So that makes whm least wanted?
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  6. #36
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    So that makes whm least wanted?
    No? Shields don't stack so you bring a raw/regen healer and a shielder. They're supposed to complement each other.
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    Last edited by Vaer; 07-24-2017 at 01:51 AM.

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  8. #37
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    So that makes whm least wanted?
    Considering the normal raid composition uses AST/WHM, no. The point of the job has always been raw, continuous output.
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  9. #38
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    Adam Fylrmyn
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Princess_Momoka View Post
    Also isn't Adloquium > Divine Benison anyway? so not only does Adloquium heal more, shield more, lasts longer, has no CD it is also not restrictive cept for the mp cost nerf.
    So basically from what I can understand, in order to make Benison not useless, you want Benison to effectively have no cooldown, retain it's instant cast and 0 MP cost, and shields HP to the point where it will not break for the whole 15 seconds (effectively a 15 second Hallowed Ground)? Lol
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  10. #39
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    Niraves Lunas
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    So basically from what I can understand, in order to make Benison not useless, you want Benison to effectively have no cooldown, retain it's instant cast and 0 MP cost, and shields HP to the point where it will not break for the whole 15 seconds (effectively a 15 second Hallowed Ground)? Lol
    If WHM gets that I want a real Bahamut summon. One shots the entire raid and makes me roll 99 on every piece of loot I want. Bwah ha ha ha ha!
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  11. #40
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    Oraina Fhey
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I would hardly say it's useless. It's a great ability for when a tank makes a large pull or you want to throw out an Aero III into the mobs or boss fights in general. SS was too taxing mana-wise and the cast time made it useless and even if you applied it prior to the pull it would always break 2 seconds into the fight on auto attacks.

    I would argue Plenary Indulgence is the semi-useless button: a fairly weak heal that requires a medica I/II or Cure III for a 10 second lasting proc.

    If you don't like a button then just don't use it I guess. :/
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