Is Dissipation really that bad?

[Jerichai]

I regarding the MP loss with 3 aether stacks you get

energy drain x3 for 3600 MP vs
summon for 2400 MP

You're not factoring in increased MP expenditures during dissipation with your analysis. If you're dedicating your AFs to energy drain, then you're forced to heal with spell's that cost MP. Not only that, but you also have to make up the potential healing from the missing fairy, both from embrace and tether. Also, if you don't or can't wait to spend AF before fairy is back, that's future MP free healing you're loosing out on.

[Miridori]

The only downside of Dissipation is that it requires Swiftcast....It gives
Free 3 Atherflows: which at worst are 3600 mana + 450 potency damage. It can be a free 1800 healing potency (which is more than 2400-mana worth of Physicks btw, without costing you 4 GCDs). It could be a free Indom which by itself out-value Succor which is over 2k mana.
Reduce 15s of Atherflow: a nice bonus if you can spend all the stacks before the CD is up
30 Fairy Gauge: doable but need a lot of planning.
20% Healing:Scholars doesn't use their basic heal as often as the other healer. Still, it makes Sch's heal become very high potency/cast. Stacking with Illumination/Largess.

Ideally you wanna use Dissipation when: Rouse/Dawn is spent. Fairy Gauge is less than 70. Atherflow is at 45s CD. (So that you can resummon your fairy at 15s left and reap that tasty 30 fairy gauge). It is a lot to keep track of, but still much better and more fun than watching 4-5 dot timers :P

[Dregenfox]

I find dissipation to be a really powerful skill. The only thing it really costs is a swiftcast cd, but in return you get the equivalent of THREE oGCD heals and 20% more healing on all GCD's.

The other thing is that patch 4.05 made all AF actions remove 5 seconds from AF, which means its theoretically possible to burst 12 AF actions in under 35 seconds. That's potentially 7200 potency worth of single-target heals for pretty much free mana cost. You literally never have to hard-cast a heal during trash pulls ever again.

[paoweeotter]

You're not factoring in increased MP expenditures during snip.

reached the daily posting limit yesterday lol. i agree with all your points.

I admit i didn't factor in those things thaf you mentioned. IN a raid you wouldn't want to use dissipation on cooldown anyway and there are only very specific and small instances where you can use dissipation and it would be a total benefit without all the downsides that you mentioned. I certainly don t use dissipation as often as I would lead others to believe based on my posts on this thread. Basically i have to memorize to the point the mechanocs first and after that figure out when I can dissipate (because everything you said is right). right now I only use it on Susano s sword phase where the transitions are long enough to be able to hardcast the pet and not lose passive healing during it a downtime. energy drain wouod be good use for the extra stacks to after Indom and if you are confident you wouldnt need the extra lustrates. I haven't found an ideal use for it yet in o1s and o2s. maybe after a couple more weeks.

[paoweeotter]

there is a "similar" fight in o3s where a lot of back to back aoe damage is coming out during apanda library phase. I was in a pug and it was my first time reaching the animals and the pug leader called for an adlo as a prep for that mechanic. could be a good use to pop fairy cooldowns then dissipate but have i have to see the fight more. during this phase the add will be doing a lot of damage on the tank while halicarnassus spans dimensional wave iirc.

either I'll pop fairy cooldowns and dissipate largesse adlo then ET succor > succor > indom.

or pop fairy cds do the same thing but have fey union on the tank. for now I'll think I'll do the latter.

ADD comes out. hali starts spamming dimensional. i pop fairy cooldowns. if aetherflow is on a long cooldown and I use sacred soil, excog and save one stack for an indom i couuuuld dissipate if extra stack is needed for emergency lustrates but hoping it won't come to that. most groupsnive been in have WHMs after all.. they are SO clutch/strong right now in savage

[Rivxkobe]

This is what I'm looking for it's definitely not as useless as everyone seems to think it's like SCH overdrive (well when used with largesse anyway.)

Woah woah woah. Wait a minute.

Why would you make a thread asking if it is good, if you are only looking for answers that fit your agenda (in this case, that dissapation is good)? Everyone else had legitimate reasons why they dislike it but you didn't like those answers so they weren't "correct".

Seriously dude...

[paoweeotter]

Woah woah woah. Wait a minute.

Why would you make a thread asking if it is good, if you are only looking for answers that fit your agenda (in this case, that dissapation is good)? Everyone else had legitimate reasons why they dislike it but you didn't like those answers so they weren't "correct".

Seriously dude...

it's marginally, sometimes, in specific instances, situationally good, but most of the time it's bad and just a hassle to use especially when compared to other healers long cooldowns that have an immediate beneficial effect with no downsides. that's what it is.

I would have loved if it also

1. resummoms your fairy, and
2. instead of the 20% healing buff you get a 100% critical chance on your next galvanizing effect

it's a 120sec cd anyway...

maybe in my dreams.

[Rawrz]

I used to love it. Use it just before long phase transitions. After i found out you could use it as a FAIRY SWAP I FELL IN LOVE. Then SE went and fixed it. :[ Now i hate it. Took a what was a good skill by accidental design and made it meh.

The thing I'll never have:

Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gauge at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gauge. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast.

[AlphaSonic]

You're not factoring in increased MP expenditures during dissipation with your analysis. If you're dedicating your AFs to energy drain, then you're forced to heal with spell's that cost MP. Not only that, but you also have to make up the potential healing from the missing fairy, both from embrace and tether. Also, if you don't or can't wait to spend AF before fairy is back, that's future MP free healing you're loosing out on.

The only MP expenditure is the potential healing from the missing fairy. The rest should be the same even if you don't blow the fairy since in both cases SCH would need to heal. Moreover, since usually blowing the fairy should be used in heavy AoE situations, in those heavy AoE situations the SCH that blows the fairy would consume less MP as it would need to do less cast and would have more aetherflow to deal with it.

The only potential cost of blowing the fairy is the healing after that AoE situation and having to blow swiftcast. And don't tell me that resummoning your fairy is MP expenditure when you get 3 Aetherflow you wouldn't ever get if you don't blow her.

[BloodRubyXII]

I'd rather largesse and spam physick than kill my faerie.