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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Oh look, another gamer who's never played a Final Fantasy other than FFXI!

    Seriously, can you offer better arguments than "I saw it in FFXI and played it in FFXI, so it must be good!"
    No I have played other FF games but I just a DRG at heart in FFXI and I just have a very strong attachment with my Wyvern and I just don't want FFXI to be the only one that has the Wyverns as a pet.. That's just me.

    Q: Will dragoons have a wyvern?
    A: After 2.0, we are thinking about having them use their breath ability when you jump. However, as I answered in the interviews, I think you all really would like to fight alongside a wyvern pet. With a dragoon having a pet wyvern, battle balance will be necessary for both master and pet, and as a result the dragoon itself might become a bit weaker. We would like to hear your feedback on this before we make any final decisions.
    This is from Yoshi.. I just feel we should have Wyverns as a for a MMO game.
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    Here's another supporting comment for the wyverns! Only the amazing looking wyverns and not the xi ones. Please give us our scaley pets please Yoshi and team!
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  3. #173
    Don't worry Sevokevo. You don't have to play certain games to be able to have an opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    Here's another supporting comment for the wyverns! Only the amazing looking wyverns and not the xi ones. Please give us our scaley pets please Yoshi and team!
    If they intend on giving us the XI wyverns I will reverse my opinion now. So yes to NEW not goofy looking flying beaversaurs but REAL Wyverns or a baby Dragon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevokevo_Royuki View Post
    No I have played other FF games but I just a DRG at heart in FFXI and I just have a very strong attachment with my Wyvern and I just don't want FFXI to be the only one that has the Wyverns as a pet.. That's just me.

    This is from Yoshi.. I just feel we should have Wyverns as a for a MMO game.
    I'm taking what Yoshi-P said at face value: TESTING. I seriously hope the prototyping results show that the original jobs do NOT deserve any kind of rebalance for a pet. If a Wyvern as a combat pet gets added, I'd rather it be optional for PvE combat, and not usable in PvP. That way, the stats do not hurt the Dragoon as a damage dealer.

    Sevo, if we're going to have another Wyvern-based DRagoon job in the second Final Fantasy MMO, it's not going to really do me any happiness. Know why?

    In about 5 to 15 years from now, there will probably be another Final Fantasy MMO in the works. I don't want the "original Dragoon" (Kain, Freya, etc) to have missed out being a staple in the MMO genre for two, god forbid THREE times in a row...

    P.S. Yes, I am capable of thinking that far ahead...the wyvern has had its heyday in FFXI, let Kain and Freya have their glory now.
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  6. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon View Post
    If they intend on giving us the XI wyverns I will reverse my opinion now. So yes to NEW not goofy looking flying beaversaurs but REAL Wyverns or a baby Dragon!
    That's the spirit! Who says our wyverns have to be the small dainty ones from XI! Hopefully not Yoshi...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_Dragoon View Post
    I like this idea, as cruel as it sounds I like it. If you don't want a wyvern you can choose to kill it off and take on it's abilities and if you do want one you choose to take it under your wing and raise it as a companion to aid you in combat by linking your souls together.

    Seeing how Drg will be coming well before we'd see a pet the idea of making the quest optional later when pet AI is tweaked out and ready for release is also the other option. Same scenario as above minus the killing and absorbing since you'd already possess these powers.

    For the sake of "Well since you already have the powers before doing this optional quest how would you lose them?!" Easy answer the wyvern is dying and you split the part of your soul you stole from the creature that gave you those abilities to save it's life and in turn it will stand by your side til the end using the powers and life you gave to it to help you in your adventures.
    Yes This will be something I can accept if it is possible to do that.
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  8. #178
    Can't we have our kain/freya dragoons and fight alongside our wyverns too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    That's the spirit! Who says our wyverns have to be the small dainty ones from XI! Hopefully not Yoshi...
    If we're going to get wyverns...make sure they're big, intimidating, and mountable as an aerial combatant. And they should not take away ANY stats whatsoever from the player dragoon's stats. I want the wyvern to be considered an "add-on" that can be disabled in PvP combat environments.

    And when I say Big, I mean big enough to knock over a conga line of chocobos with a sneeze...

    And when I say intimidating, I mean they should cause the City Guards to wet their pants with one glare...

    And when I say mountable/aerial combatant, I mean they should be rideable by Dragoon, and they should be powerful in mid-air combat. (Garuda, I'm looking at you~)

    Basically, I am not against the idea of a Kain/Freya Dragoon having the option to have a strong wyvern at their side that does NOT cause problems with balance.

    Here is a list of requisites:
    1. The Dragoon should be able to fight on their own on equal footing against other classes and PvE enemies without the wyvern.
    2. The Wyvern should be restricted in PvP (aka, not summonable)
    3. The Wyvern's main purpose would be the mount to the Dragoon as mounted cavalry.
    4. The Wyvern is capable of fighting on its own, but not capable of winning ANYTHING on its own. Period. The Wyvern should be used primarily as a PvE/Lore device, not an actual combat pet class. (That role is reserved for Summoner and Beastmaster, folks.)

    Better yet, the Wyvern could be rewarded as an achievement for the player having completed all Dragoon-related quests, that way, it becomes more of an optional function than an absolute necessity.
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 11-05-2011 at 01:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zahak View Post
    Can't we have our kain/freya dragoons and fight alongside our wyverns too?
    Yes this is actually a possibility, if other classes can summon chocobos to their aid in battle and not take a hit to dmg, in the later version of XIV why can't us Dragoons have us a Dragon/Wyvern to do the same that is EXCLUSIVE to our job and not take a hit to our dmg.

    I am talking full customizable just like chocobos with name and armor.

    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    If we're going to get wyverns...make sure they're big, intimidating, and mountable as an aerial combatant. And they should not take away ANY stats whatsoever from the player dragoon's stats. I want the wyvern to be considered an "add-on" that can be disabled in PvP combat environments.

    And when I say Big, I mean big enough to knock over a conga line of chocobos with a sneeze...

    And when I say intimidating, I mean they should cause the City Guards to wet their pants with one glare...

    And when I say mountable/aerial combatant, I mean they should be rideable by Dragoon, and they should be powerful in mid-air combat. (Garuda, I'm looking at you~)

    Basically, I am not against the idea of a Kain/Freya Dragoon having the option to have a strong wyvern at their side that does NOT cause problems with balance.

    Here is a list of requisites:
    1. The Dragoon should be able to fight on their own on equal footing against other classes and PvE enemies without the wyvern.
    2. The Wyvern should be restricted in PvP (aka, not summonable)
    3. The Wyvern's main purpose would be the mount to the Dragoon as mounted cavalry.
    4. The Wyvern is capable of fighting on its own, but not capable of winning ANYTHING on its own. Period. The Wyvern should be used primarily as a PvE/Lore device, not an actual combat pet class. (That role is reserved for Summoner and Beastmaster, folks.)
    As great as that sounds the players would then pull the "Their pet is cluttering up my screeen" cries

    After the updates I retract my statement, that would make the pet almost useless :<
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