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    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    The thing I don't get about Phsyick/Vercure is; If Summoners aren't meant to heal, why do they have Physick? It feels like another hold out from the split with Scholar, which they've clearly been working on lately (with actions such as removing the bonus stats). If Summoners are supposed to be their own job, without ties to Scholar such as minor healing utility, then Physick should just be removed from the job (and preferably replaced with some extra DPS or utility). If Summoners are supposed to have healing utility, why should the be objectively shit at it, when compared to Red Mage?
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    Kronus Magnus
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    The thing I don't get about Phsyick/Vercure is; If Summoners aren't meant to heal, why do they have Physick? It feels like another hold out from the split with Scholar, which they've clearly been working on lately (with actions such as removing the bonus stats). If Summoners are supposed to be their own job, without ties to Scholar such as minor healing utility, then Physick should just be removed from the job (and preferably replaced with some extra DPS or utility). If Summoners are supposed to have healing utility, why should the be objectively shit at it, when compared to Red Mage?
    They should never have had physick. I remember playing SMN in XI and usually in standard leveling parties, SMN would heal just because they had heal, especially at lower levels. Rdm was relegated to cure and haste ho.

    I would prefer I have no cure whatsoever, so any buttons I need to press are reserved for controlling my pet. Which is what an FF fan really want to do when they play a summon job. If anything the pet should be healing me and should have an auto sustain so I don't have to cast heals.

    If the class thing was gonna be permanent, summoner should have branched from it's own class called Evoker in my opinion.

    I bet SE kind of regrets making summoner pets with different roles in a game with strict roles and no cross play between roles.
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    Last edited by Sandpark; 07-19-2017 at 03:42 AM.

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    Resiak Ttam
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    The thing I don't get about Phsyick/Vercure is; If Summoners aren't meant to heal, why do they have Physick? It feels like another hold out from the split with Scholar, which they've clearly been working on lately (with actions such as removing the bonus stats). If Summoners are supposed to be their own job, without ties to Scholar such as minor healing utility, then Physick should just be removed from the job (and preferably replaced with some extra DPS or utility). If Summoners are supposed to have healing utility, why should the be objectively shit at it, when compared to Red Mage?
    Thats the problem. Physick is stuck with us because of sch. If you make physick a job ability, what happens when a sch does leveling roulette and goes under lvl 30. That would kind of be tough if your healer doesn't have a heal. So they have to leave it as an archanist ability, which means it's stuck with us summoners.
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    Elie Uzephi
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ResiakTtam View Post
    Thats the problem. Physick is stuck with us because of sch. If you make physick a job ability, what happens when a sch does leveling roulette and goes under lvl 30. That would kind of be tough if your healer doesn't have a heal. So they have to leave it as an archanist ability, which means it's stuck with us summoners.
    Idea: just make it so level 30 summoner turns physick to sustain, problem solved
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ResiakTtam View Post
    Thats the problem. Physick is stuck with us because of sch. If you make physick a job ability, what happens when a sch does leveling roulette and goes under lvl 30. That would kind of be tough if your healer doesn't have a heal. So they have to leave it as an archanist ability, which means it's stuck with us summoners.
    That shouldn't be an issue. All SE has to do is at level 30 replace Physick with Sustain for Summoners. When we enter a lower level dungeon set it back to Physick. They already do this up/down with Bio and Miasma not to mention they've given SCH Miasma II but not Summoners. The fact is they aren't as tightly coupled as SE makes out and they've already set the precedence of having the two being different.
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