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    File2ish's Avatar
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    Olwen Mercier
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    Coeurl
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
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    I've raised half a party, and the MP hit is staggering. BUT I've had quite a few bards in my duties and their MP refresh helps wonders with that. At least in raiding instances, I'd assume there would be a bard since they're pretty great overall right now.

    Take Bard away, and yes, having to raise people 4+ people at once in an 8 man is going to kill your MP reserves. No denying that. But even without a Bard to refresh you can sustain your normal damage output with lucid dreaming (and not 4 dying at once >.>), and depending on the situation/timing of lucid dreaming you'll have enough MP to be good the rest of the fight.

    But the fact remains that Verraise as a utility is a massive boon to the party, especially the healers. BLM's utility is far more limited in scope. And while BLM pretty much has infinite MP, but the rest of it's utility is still lacking. RDM shouldn't be dealing more dmg in my opinion, it should be ~same or a bit less.
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    Vael Keriun
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    Leviathan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
    But the fact remains that Verraise as a utility is a massive boon to the party, especially the healers. BLM's utility is far more limited in scope. And while BLM pretty much has infinite MP, but the rest of it's utility is still lacking. RDM shouldn't be dealing more dmg in my opinion, it should be ~same or a bit less.
    Pretty sure RDM and BLM dps is less than ~150 away from each other as is with the slight number advantage given to BLM.

    The only limiting factor is the BLM's own mechanics falling so hard on their face when a big boss puts something bad under their feet, or on their head.

    As for the value of verraise, yes it's nice for easy stuff like the ex primals, but the better your group is, the less valuable it becomes. Also, if endgame ever became as unforgiving as gordias savage, you may as well wipe it up, and start again.
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    Selena Zensh
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by File2ish View Post
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    My luck with drawing a Bard in my parties is about as consistent as me getting a Ewer every time I actually need to use one. Very poor.

    Anyways, right now there is something that is mucking with the logs that needs fixing so that we can see the true DPS of RDM vs BLM, especially with the coming changes:

    RDM has a mana glitch that makes use of the reduced gain caused by mana imbalance. Not only is the gain reduced, but expenditure as well. This allows a RDM that adjusts for this to burst combo more often leading to higher then intended damage output which is influencing the logs. In fact, leading to there being an almost 400-500 DPS difference between the top RDM on the JP/EU servers vs the NA ones on Susano.

    Aside from that RDM and BLM are actually competing very close to each other on the logs in the susano fight. The upcoming BLM buffs should definitely push it over RDM, and if that mana glitch is fixed then RDM will definitely be underneath BLM in damage output even in a fight that it has the mobility advantage in.
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