Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXXVII Discussion Thread

[Berethos]

Since that is the case, where the development gets ideas from other games, a glam log in this one should been here some time in HW.

You do know that WoW didn't get its glamour log until mid-2016, right? They haven't even had it a year.

IF we're pretending that this game is using WoW as a basis for all its ideas (which is laughable - they look to some core concepts that WoW has made popular, but also do their own thing and have since the relaunch), that would mean the devs here would have had about 9 months (GW2 has had a system in place since 2012, but the calls from players for a glam log didn't really start to get a lot of traction until WoW added their version, at which point it became a much more asked for feature) to rework the glamour system here while also finishing the other patches and the work on the expansion, along with the server move and the inventory increase. Maybe you believe developers can work miracles on their own game just because other developers have added a feature after several years, but I'm going to look at it from a more realistic point of view that also acknowledges that what games are capable of can be dependent on their own game engine and server structure and so at best the devs here have a concept they can pull inspiration from and nothing more (cause Blizz sure as hell ain't gonna share technical secrets, even if they are applicable to this game's design).

That being said, what you're seeing with the current design of glamour is likely is a result of a difference in philosophies towards gear collection for glamour - the developers are basically of the mind that it's okay to throw out all but maybe the really tough to get stuff if you're not going to be using it right away, and just to go back and acquire it later when you want it again. A good amount of one-time only stuff can already go in the armoire or be repurchased for cheap at one of the NPCs designated to sell that stuff (Calamity Salvager and the other one next to them for holiday stuff).

Following the above kind of approach, the impact of glam on inventory is definitely manageable. It only really becomes a problem when players start hoarding every single item they think they might want to glamour maybe in the future. Add in the tendency to hold on to more crafting materials than you actually need to keep around, solely for the convenience of not having to gather just what you need closer to when you need it...well that's a playstyle issue running up against current limitations, and at least part of that responsibility lies on the player.

That all being said...one of the fan translations of the live letter did note that Yoshi-P mentioned major changes coming to the glamour system and that they'd reveal more info once it was more finalized, so changes are coming.

Just not fast enough for some of you impatient folk.

[Naunet]

Like what? what are these best parts you speak of.

Better inventory management and banking system. UI design that doesn't over-rely on sub-menus. Currencies in a currency tab. The ability to pre-save transmog outfits. The transmog library itself. Very large, detailed zones that don't stymie you with invisible walls. The ability to mail instantly to your alts. To name a few.

You do know that WoW didn't get its glamour log until mid-2016, right? They haven't even had it a year.

And tons of other games have had the same kind of feature for years - even before FFXIV re-released. This is not some brand new idea. We're not "impatient" for being frustrated at SE being tone deaf for 3 expacs.

[Blood-Aki]

Better inventory management and banking system. UI design that doesn't over-rely on sub-menus. Currencies in a currency tab. The ability to pre-save transmog outfits. The transmog library itself. Very large, detailed zones that don't stymie you with invisible walls. The ability to mail instantly to your alts. To name a few.

None of those are best parts, they are just what you think may help you more. they are very minimal.

They are what YOU think are best, so that did not answer my question.

[Naunet]

None of those are best parts, they are just what you think may help you more. they are very minimal.

They are what YOU think are best, so that did not answer my question.

Best is subjective. So yes. I did answer your question. Many of the things I mention are highly demanded in the community - see the 60+ page thread on inventory issues.

[Blood-Aki]

Best is subjective. So yes. I did answer your question. Many of the things I mention are highly demanded in the community - see the 60+ page thread on inventory issues.

I don't have inventory issues, Nor do a large majority of people who don't hoard every crafting item in existence and i like FFXIV UI a lot more.

SO no, you didn't, in fact i would argue they are the WORST parts, Perhaps i have to teach you how opinions work?

[Mikhaill]

I don't have inventory issues, Nor do a large majority of people who don't hoard every crafting item in existence and i like FFXIV UI a lot more.

SO no, you didn't, in fact i would argue they are the WORST parts, Perhaps i have to teach you how opinions work?

"I don't have inventory issues so no one else does."
Alright Aki. Game has hundred's of items on here, people use glamour and
craft and use old gear for running things. Inventory space is a definite issue.
SE won't do crap about it, stead they give us the tired excuse of issues of "server limitations"
or whatever, but meanwhile, we can shell out RL money to "increase space". So I don't buy it.
Literally and Pun intended lol. Inventory space needs a fix, all there is to it.

Hopefully the Glamour rehaul can help with a bit of it.

[VanilleFang]

Best is subjective. So yes. I did answer your question. Many of the things I mention are highly demanded in the community - see the 60+ page thread on inventory issues.

Sorry, I'd have to agree with Blood-Aki. You said they should be taking the "best things from WoW" and then listed things that are completely subjective. You may think they are the "best" but objectively they haven't been proven to be so.

Why should SE change anything due to someone's subjective opinion?

[Naunet]

Sorry, I'd have to agree with Blood-Aki. You said they should be taking the "best things from WoW" and then listed things that are completely subjective. You may think they are the "best" but objectively they haven't been proven to be so.

Why should SE change anything due to someone's subjective opinion?

Literally what people want in a video game is subjective. Arguing this is pointless. Goes the other way, too: what YOU think is best is not necessarily best in other people's eyes.

As for inventory issues... if you don't think it's a problem, take a look at the 60+ page thread on it with hundreds of likes.

[Princess_Momoka]

Better inventory management and banking system. UI design that doesn't over-rely on sub-menus. Currencies in a currency tab. The ability to pre-save transmog outfits. The transmog library itself. Very large,detailed zones that don't stymie you with invisible walls. The ability to mail instantly to your alts. To name a few.



And tons of other games have had the same kind of feature for years - even before FFXIV re-released. This is not some brand new idea. We're not "impatient" for being frustrated at SE being tone deaf for 3 expacs.

This, I may not have an exact date but a major point was missed.

That being said, what you're seeing with the current design of glamour is likely is a result of a difference in philosophies towards gear collection for glamour - the developers are basically of the mind that it's okay to throw out all but maybe the really tough to get stuff if you're not going to be using it right away, and just to go back and acquire it later when you want it again. A good amount of one-time only stuff can already go in the armoire or be repurchased for cheap at one of the NPCs designated to sell that stuff (Calamity Salvager and the other one next to them for holiday stuff).

No it cannot, there is lots of things that are not at the salavge NPC or armoire that needs to be. Also we should have a housing NPCs for the salager and that holiday one. I can't even rebuy event stuff that I was not able to take part in the game, but bought off mog station.

Literally what people want in a video game is subjective. Arguing this is pointless. Goes the other way, too: what YOU think is best is not necessarily best in other people's eyes.

As for inventory issues... if you don't think it's a problem, take a look at the 60+ page thread on it with hundreds of likes.

69 pages with 175 likes currently, I know I have not been here for long but, I have not seen a thread with that many. Really shocked how representatives can reply to threads with much smaller likes and post count. Item management is very poor, if they can't let you transfer items between retainers, then they need new servers or a different item management system.