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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    So it should be below all of those, and then it will ok?

    Yea, good luck getting anyone to use RDM.
    Do people only play RDM to top the charts?
    I feel bad for RDM then LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Higashikata View Post
    Yes, I agree. RDM being above MNK, DRG, SMN, BLM, MCH and BRD while having the easiest rotation in the game is "fine where it is."
    3 of those Jobs had their time. It's time to pass the torch to someone else for a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    3 of those Jobs had their time. It's time to pass the torch to someone else for a change.
    I don't think you understand the point of balance. It's an attempt to make everyone a solid pick with different setups without feeling/being a possible detriment. Not to play some silly OP hand off game. Advocate for balance, Silly- not blatant imbalance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    Do people only play RDM to top the charts?
    I feel bad for RDM then LOL.
    Actually, yes, they do. Welcome to FFXIV playerbase (it's mainly the raiding community)
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    Actually, yes, they do. Welcome to FFXIV playerbase (it's mainly the raiding community)
    They actually don't. Most of the population aren't raiders, and by your logic that leaves the remaining playerbase of RDM players who don't raid (It's an immensely popular class) to be playing it for the class and not the DPS.

    Mayhaps putting them in proportion to other classes won't be as lethal to the class as your doomsaying?

    Naturally there will be players who are tier whores- but they don't care about classes, they care about numbers and are therefore by their very nature impartial to the class they play as long as it's high performing. They don't care about RDM- they care about RDM's numbers.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 07-16-2017 at 06:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    I don't think you understand the point of balance. It's an attempt to make everyone a solid pick with different setups without feeling/being a possible detriment. Not to play some silly OP hand off game. Advocate for balance, Silly- not blatant imbalance.
    Nah, I know balance. The problem is when SE started removing abilities from the previous Jobs, they poorly implemented changes to make up the difference. SAM and RDM were built with these changes already in mind. If anything, the Old Jobs need buffs. I main DRK but you don't see me coming to the forums crying for PLD nerfs. Buff my Job and I'll be happy (Which I got, thanks to the LL).
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990 View Post
    Nah, I know balance. The problem is when SE started removing abilities from the previous Jobs, they poorly implemented changes to make up the difference. SAM and RDM were built with these changes already in mind. If anything, the Old Jobs need buffs. I main DRK but you don't see me coming to the forums crying for PLD nerfs. Buff my Job and I'll be happy (Which I got, thanks to the LL).
    Nowhere in your response did you make a point to address why you advocate for RDM to be passed the OP torch?
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  8. 07-16-2017 07:06 AM
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    He does not understand how endgame works, Waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood-Aki View Post
    LOL, Oh boy, welp. no point going any further with this. How long have you played this exactly?

    Actually, Nm, don't even answer that.
    Instead of being condescending and dodging the question, why not answer it?

    RDM has a massive playerbase, not all of which are raiders by any means so I ask you- How are (By your words) "Mainly the raiding community" the say all and be all of what attracts people to RDM when just purely by statistics of this games raiding population don't align with your claims.

    Again I ask for a straight forward answer, not your roundabout lip.

    Even under the assumption that you're correct- RDM currently holds its ground as the most popular class in the game so my next question for you is if you actually believe that the class will die like your doomsaying predicts or MAYBE just maybe it has a smidgen of hope to have a player following even if it's a balanced class in accordance to the others.
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    Last edited by Greedalox; 07-16-2017 at 07:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's more like a 700 potency cure due to the dual cast. Which is a bit strong for a non healer.
    Paladin has a 1200 potency heal which scales on VIT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    which scales on VIT.
    Um. No it doesn't?
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