Please don't Nerf Vercure

[LunarEmerald]

It's more like a 700 potency cure due to the dual cast. Which is a bit strong for a non healer.

[Rawrz]

It's more like a 700 potency cure due to the dual cast. Which is a bit strong for a non healer.

Why do people say that? Stone III is 500 potency. It costs the same amount of gcds. Just because it's getting front loaded doesn't mean it does more.

[Alistaire]

It's more like a 700 potency cure due to the dual cast. Which is a bit strong for a non healer.

That is factually incorrect. Not just for vercure, but please stop thinking of dualcast like it removes the gcd time, you just get the effect early; your next gcd takes effect a full 2 gcds worth of time later.

[Lambdafish]

you just get the effect early

Which for an emergency heal is quite important wouldn't you say?

[Claire_Pendragon]

Which for an emergency heal is quite important wouldn't you say?

Besides oGCDs, as WHM, I can cast cure, and follow up with a "dual cast" Regen right after, in hopes of a tick, before I can heal again, or to help land an oGCD.
I can also Cast Stone, and "dual cast" Aero" right after.
That doesnt automatically make WHM unfair, and able to land more cures/DPS solely because regen and aero are instant casts.
The only factor they help with, is movement heavy scenarios.

If a boss landed a tank buster, you only need to get the tank up enough to survive weak auto attacks.
Most healers tend to use oGCD burst heals because they are instant, not because the tank needs to be max HP.
But practicing the timming, to know when to land the cure after the cast bars, will do just as well. (As most savage groups do, when they have already blown their oGCD heals, to maintain DPSing. or are saving them for movement heavy moments.)

The only time a tank gets low, and you want to burst as much healing as possible, is when a tank isnt using CDs, is undergeared, and is trying to pull 2+ groups of mobs, reaching 5+ mobs.
(The auto attacks from mob groups hit harder than bosses do, and if the tank isnt over geared, or using CDs, tend to even do more dmg than tank busters.)

[LunarEmerald]

That is factually incorrect. Not just for vercure, but please stop thinking of dualcast like it removes the gcd time, you just get the effect early; your next gcd takes effect a full 2 gcds worth of time later.

Using the dual cast vercure does not use a gcd. You use it during the ocd of the first vercure.

[Rawrz]

Using the dual cast vercure does not use a gcd. You use it during the ocd of the first vercure.

all credibility lost. I'm cranky. I'm sorry.

[Hyrist]

Using the dual cast vercure does not use a gcd. You use it during the ocd of the first vercure.

That's incorrect. Global cooldown actions to all primary actions regardless of cast time. Only 'Abilities', specifically designated as such to be off global cooldown, fail to trigger a global cooldown. Keep track of your action bar, you will see the action ticker happen regardless of dualcast proc. It's the cast bar that gets removed. (Someone had to explain it.)

[LunarEmerald]

That's incorrect. Global cooldown actions to all primary actions regardless of cast time. Only 'Abilities', specifically designated as such to be off global cooldown, fail to trigger a global cooldown. Keep track of your action bar, you will see the action ticker happen regardless of dualcast proc. It's the cast bar that gets removed.

Ah. I must be mistaken though. Sorry.

[Hyrist]

It all feels quite fluid, so someone who isn't used to cast times and the limitations of them from other jobs can often mistake the idea that it feels like one long global cooldown. Buy in large, there's been more of this confusion due to the added interest Red Mage has garnered in caster classes and the unique mechanics to the Job. Just a bump on the learning curve is all. You're not the only one so it's no big deal. Just spread the knowledge around when you can.