Please, NEVER nerf RDM!

[KalinOrthos]

Like I said, RDM is fine on its own. Its the other jobs which need to be brought up. RDM isn't Broken. BLM and SMN are. Even before we could play the game BLM and SMN players were looking at potencies and new abilities and knew immediately their classes had been broken. If two lights won't turn on, but the third one will, the solution isn't to break the third light, its to fix the other two.

Congratulations, you've just created power creep, where classes are overtuned for content.

Nerfs are a harsh, sucky reality that we have to deal with in an MMO. I main PLD and AST, and I am dreading the nerfs incoming for both of those jobs, but I know they are necessary, because both are top of the charts in what they do. Instead of bringing everyone up, a much more sensible design choice is to meet in the middle.

[RaizeGraymalkin]

The amount of bitching about SAM and RDM makes me concerned that SE will nerf both, which would be fucking lame. All because "muh job isn't top deeeppppss".

[Sardonia]

The amount of bitching about SAM and RDM makes me concerned that SE will nerf both, which would be fucking lame. All because "muh job isn't top deeeppppss".

So much this. Right now we do not have enough information. People are basing this off of the two extreme primal fights which have heavy movement which of course will benefit RDM and even SMN more than BLM. Lets see what the numbers state after Omega savage goes on for a week or two to get actual numbers with some fights not being so movement heavy.

[Claire_Pendragon]

You're missing the point. RDM gets a free Swiftcast Raise anytime they use Jolt, which is...every other cooldown. Yeah, it eats through mana, just as Raise eats through healer mana. That fact that it happens without the use of a single big cooldown and can be instantly worked into a standard RDM rotation (just switch Thunder or Aero with Raise, and you're good) is the problem.

You're also missing that you can only raise twice to keep your DPS up. Thats only 1 more than SMN.
And as others have said, even if I was top DPS in my susano (idk why the SAM wasnt out doing my pittiful 3.1k dps)
If im out of MP to keep my DPS up, im not much better than a dead DPS.
And honestly even with my rez, the group still failed the enrage most of the time.

The one group that didnt need my raises, they were able to beat the DPS check.

In short, having 1 more raise over a SMN isnt all that its cracked up to be.
It IS a bonus over SMN, but its not as crazy as people make it out to be.

SMN and BLM just need some minor adjustments.
(SMN needing a sort of gauge that only depletes with GCDs, rather than with time, would be great)

[Arutan]

magic is OP but takes a while to cast the powerful stuff.

Please tell me you aren't casting VerWind and VerThunder manually without the dual cast

[ADVSS]

The amount of bitching about SAM and RDM makes me concerned that SE will nerf both, which would be fucking lame. All because "muh job isn't top deeeppppss".

For real, the issue is just that. Im fine for some potency tweaks here and there as i do feel less utility/mobility should equal greater damage output, but to want a jobs main squeeze to be stripped just to make another job more relevant is silly. RDM is fine, it does what RDM do, it can help struggling parties, or healers in a pinch and go back to dpsing. As said before, in a raid set up itd probably be a wipe if that was counted on.

[Aqua_Amaiyo]

All I've read so far is "*insert class/job here* needs to be nerfed because it makes my/this class irrelevant in so and so setting! There for *insert class/job here* needs to be tweaked and nerfed!" When in reality, before Stormblood even came out, we could see the changes classes and skills even before release.

Rather than doing the about face and nerfing a class that's meant to do certain things, they need to revise and relook at each class where there IS a problem and tweak them rather than nerfing said classes due to certain aspects of a class. Offering more constructive suggestions rather than debating into the ground why a class should be nerfed, try to provide solid feedback, backed with actual data.

[Verdan]

Red Mages shouldn't delude themselves. Your damage will be nerfed.

[Deedsie]

I don't see a good class in Red Mage because it doesn't have one at all.

[Vexander]

Congratulations, you've just created power creep, where classes are overtuned for content.

Its the launch of an expansion. The odds of all classes being balanced is pretty poor. So, what you do is, you plan for the future. Introduce the buffs needed to bring the classes to the same levels of performance or close enough that they can compete with one another. Sacrifice the balance of existing content. Then, for the first major patch, 4.1, you tune the new content around the now balanced classes.

Very simple process.