Scholar Fixes

[Supersun]

Yeah. Okay. You tested clipping bio II at 10+ seconds? Math is simple. Also your post before said it was a dps gain without having to move.

This would depend on how frequently you have to move as well since if you are expecting to move at least once more before Bio II would originally expire then a Ruin II would be better now as you would then clip the Bio II close to it's expiration when you have to move next.

Actually, that something interesting to think about. For fights with a lot of movement would it be better to not necessarily recast Bio II immediately when it falls off, but instead continuing to Broil II until you have to move again which then you would recast Bio II? It should be possible to calculate based on the average time between needing to move to determine if this is worth it or not based on the extra GCD you would gain from Bio II vs the loss in DoT uptime
Based on some quick calculations if you are moving (that is moving enough to need to use an instant cast) at least once every ~40 secs then it's better to use Bio II instead of Ruin II and rather let the DoT drop off for up to 9 or so seconds and continuing to Broil II until you need to move again and reapply it.

(Specifically replacing a Ruin II with a Broil II is a 130 potency increase meaning that it's worth is so long as you don't lose more than 130 potency from Bio II at 35 potency a tick which means that losing up to 3 ticks of Bio II, or 9 seconds, is fine if you are replacing the GCD you would have spent casting Bio II with a Broil II and then replace the GCD you would have cast a Ruin II with Bio II)

[Alisi]

SCH is not NOT viable in dungeons, it's just... our skills could use some tweaking - right now it feels like a good portion of the skills you use the most in 4-mans conflicts in some manner with the rest of your toolkit... little to no coherency or synergy.

I have no problem healing expert dungeons. I'm not sure what the issue for you is. The only DPS that die are the ones that would die regardless of the healer -- aka, either they pulled aggro or they didn't do a mechanic. Here's a tip: tie embrace to broil 2 macro to heal their target then pop a bubble and Exco on the main tank and go to town. 80% of the time the fairy keeps the tank up not to need to use the Exco.

Your telling me a 3.0 can solo heal rav but a sch can't solo heal lakshimi?

Susa and Lak Ex can be solo healed but only if you have people that avoid things or use their vril. LOL Good luck.

[Kabzy]

Yeah, the problema is every job classified as "TANK" can both main tank and offtank. But only 2 jobs classified as healers can main heal. Fair? Not for me.

This is very true, and in a way I can see why it is a problem now that they decided to homogenize the role so much.

However for the future of the job, I really hope we see buffs to our DPS/utility in the hopes that we can stay as an off-healer. If I wanted to be the main healer in a raid, I would play WHM or AST, but I don't. And I think SE need to give SCH this particular identity back. DPS and mitigation was our thing, and that's why I disagree with people asking for buffs to our AoE healing. Once again the problem lies in the diversity of AST and its overpowered N.sect, and the fact that we're always going to be compared to them.

I would honestly not even care if SCH stayed the worst of the three as long as it could get its old playstyle back. If you want bigger AoE heals and regens and whatnot, please play a different job. Let SCH be what it once was.

[Supersun]

Here's a tip: tie embrace to broil 2 macro

NEVER tie a GCD ability to a macro. Macros can't be qued. This would be a DPS loss over just hitting Broil II outside of a macro.

It's better just to create an Embrace macro itself and learn to hit that between hitting GCD abilities.

[Alisi]

NEVER tie a GCD ability to a macro. Macros can't be qued. This would be a DPS loss over just hitting Broil II outside of a macro.

It's better just to create an Embrace macro itself and learn to hit that between hitting GCD abilities.

Dude. I do. I have two macro's. One specific to Embrace to micro manage that and one I tie to Broil 2. I only use the latter when I'm DPSing trash pulls in dungeons. LOL. As I said. KK? Thanks.

[Supersun]

Dude. I do. I have two macro's. One specific to Embrace to micro manage that and one I tie to Broil 2. I only use the latter when I'm DPSing trash pulls in dungeons. LOL. As I said. KK? Thanks.

It's not like you were giving advice to someone else to do something suboptimally. If you want lower DPS in dungeons, that's fine, but the other player at least has the right to know that your method is a loss in DPS over doing it properly.

[Alisi]

It's not like you were giving advice to someone else to do something suboptimally. If you want lower DPS in dungeons, that's fine, but the other player at least has the right to know that your method is a loss in DPS over doing it properly.

Forgive me. I wasn't thinking about the highest possible DPS output in a dungeon. I was just thinking the easiest way to heal. Obviously, you're a god among mortals and now she knows this'll be a DPS lose. Can we all go home now?

[Guulu]

Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect your dps at all, since pet action doesn't share GCD with player. Here's a macro I'm using atm and feel free to test it:

/ac Ruin
/pac Embrace <tt>
/micon Ruin

Along with Rouse, healing isn't even needed in dungeons, even for lvl61+ ones if tank only pull 1 group. In case you are confused, Aetherpact is a player ability that make pet use Fey Union, so it can't be used during your GCD. While Embrace, Whispering Dawn, Fey Covenant, Fey Illumination are pet action so they can be used during your GCD. The down side for this macro is other pet actions especially Whispering Dawn can be tricky to land because you're constantly spamming broil II, to fix that you might need another Steady/Guard macro for them.

[Supersun]

Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect you dps at all, since pet action doesn't share GCD with player. Here's a macro I'm using atm and feel free to test it:

It's not a matter of whether it shares a GCD or not. It's a matter that NO (in-game) macro can be put on the GCD que.

Even if you make a macro that is just /ac "Broil II" and nothing else, you cannot que that macro on the GCD que.

If you want to test it make a Macro for Embrace and then put Embrace on your hotbar normally. You'll be spamming the normal Embrace a lot faster since no time will be wasted between your casts because your next Embrace is qued before your current one is finished while with a macro there will inevitably be a small delay between your casts as you can't que the macro and can only activate it as soon as the previous embrace is completely finished casting.

[Guulu]

It's not a matter of whether it shares a GCD or not. It's a matter that NO (in-game) macro can be put on the GCD que.

Even if you make a macro that is just /ac "Broil II" and nothing else, you cannot que that macro on the GCD que.

If you want to test it make a Macro for Embrace and then put Embrace on your hotbar normally. You'll be spamming the normal Embrace a lot faster.

Pet action doesn't queue at all. That's why Steady/Guard macro exist, making it a lot easier to control your pet. Yes macro doesn't queue, but you are literally spamming the key so I doubt there's actually DPS different. Even if there is, it is negligible since you won't get 1 extra broil for that in either pulls or boss fight at dungeons.

For Raid however, you might get 1 extra broill from like 200 broil you spammed. But keep in mind that you or your co-healer will be healing tank more since you are not using your embrace to full potential, which is likely to cause your DPS lost. You are welcome to spam broil and embrace at once for the entire fight, in that case I am wrong with my statement "Using Broil II and embrace macro doesn't effect your dps at all".