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    Quote Originally Posted by Deox View Post
    SCH is always going to be the secondary healer, at that point it's not about HPS pointless overhealing is pointless overhealing. As long as SCH has the answers to respond to moments the main healer can't handle something on their own, the SCH will always be Viable. Any SCH worth a gain of salt in 8 man content abosultely does not cast a single heal unless required. Occasional indoms, lustrates, adlo for tank busters, occasional real healing when party is taking split high dps and micro managing the fairy's abilities to assist the main healer.
    Didn't know SE has set a 4th role: secondary healer. Thanks for inform us. So, according to your reasoning, the very moment an encounter can be healed with a primary healer?(not SCH), SCH are totally out of the scene, since SCH can't compare to a real damage dealer. How sad for us SCHs...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xhareem View Post
    Didn't know SE has set a 4th role: secondary healer. Thanks for inform us. So, according to your reasoning, the very moment an encounter can be healed with a primary healer?(not SCH), SCH are totally out of the scene, since SCH can't compare to a real damage dealer. How sad for us SCHs...
    Did you know there are 3 different dps roles too? Melee, Caster, Ranged (support) themoreyouknow.jpg

    And SCH dps is pretty damn good atm btw

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    I honestly do feel kind of awful for complaining about DUNGEONS of all things, but come on now, at least let me keep the fairy when I dissipate... otherwise I'll be halfway in building up my gauge due to lustrate + excog and then have it rendered useless just WHEN I need fairy to use that tether healing...
    I was running with tanks that were chain pulling the i300 dungeons when I was still in i290 gear. It's a small challenge yeah but sch since release has always been the worst dungeon healer due to our bad aoe, and yes they made it even worse lol

    If a majority of your end game time is going to be focused on dungeons and you wanted to do them fast and efficiently it was always recommended to level WHM
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    Last edited by Deox; 07-11-2017 at 11:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deox View Post
    I was running with tanks that were chain pulling the i300 dungeons when I was still in i290 gear. It's a small challenge yeah but sch since release has always been the worst dungeon healer due to our bad aoe, and yes they made it even worse lol

    If a majority of your end game time is going to be focused on dungeons and you wanted to do them fast and efficiently it was always recommended to level WHM
    Strangely enough my gripe with SCH DPS at the moment is our lack of miasma II :P it'd be nice to be able to alternate between this and shadow flare as a minor form of mitigation (by applying a debuff on the mobs) - I mean, I was as annoyed at bane changes as much as the next scholar, but it's not like this on its own is a deal breaker. As you said our DPS is still nice, even if slightly lower than HW sch.

    SCH is not NOT viable in dungeons, it's just... our skills could use some tweaking - right now it feels like a good portion of the skills you use the most in 4-mans conflicts in some manner with the rest of your toolkit... little to no coherency or synergy.

    We don't need Physick II, spammable succor or on-demand Indom, personally I think our aoe skills are the one thing that doesn't need (much) change. Perhaps lowering the costs of shields or a slight increase in potency, but it's not bad. Succor was never meant to be spammable anyway.

    SCH doesn't need to be as good at buffing the rest of the team as AST, and it doesn't need all the regen skills WHM can bring - but I do feel that our mitigation abilities took a HUGE (kind of unawarranted) hit, or you simply can't even make use of them because you're gonna need to lustrate soon.
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    Last edited by Spiroglyph; 07-12-2017 at 03:00 AM. Reason: edit for cringe worthy spelling