Getting Kicked as a Tank from Dungeons for Power Pulls! No more for me!

[Mikhaill]

So after leveling my Dark Knight and Warrior to 70, over the past 2 weeks since the launch of SB I have been kicked from leveling duty finders constantly with being synced down to max stats on gear with healers in premade groups kicking me because they are too newbish to read on how in SB tanks are now taking more damage and healers had their heals reduced!
Which is it? Constantly, 20 or 3-4 times? You edited this part but now I dunno anymore. 3-4 time is not constantly.
Over the past week alone I have counted 20 times in which I ask prior to dungeons if they can handle these type of pulls, them saying yes then come to find out that they cant and they blame me while I am rotating my CD correctly and using all my defense abilities correctly that ends up them kicking me! Now there are times in which I do human error, but nowhere near the 3-4 times I have been kicked to say it was always my fault when they clearly stated they could handle it.
If the healers can't deal, then pull what you think everyone can handle regardless of how the healers feel. SCH have a harder time keeping up btw.
So bottomline, for all you Healers out there wanting or claiming to be able to handle Power Pulls....if you end up in a dungeon with me.....its not going to happen! You can thank all the players that soured that for me since it comes down to them not being able to do something basic like read on what changes came to SB with them having the idea we are still in HW! Sad....so very sad!
DRK has the worst survivability of the 3 tanks. Also low level roulettes are a terrible place to do a huge pull esp as a DRK.

*EDIT* After viewing the posts below I came to realize I accidently put 20 times which was the number times I asked if they were good with power pulls...but actually being kicked only occurred around 3-4 times in the past 2 weeks. My apologizes for not clarifying that!

Bolded and coloured my responses.
Also, it is very, VERY rare that tanks will be kicked.
Something just doesn't add up to me. There must've of been
some context or an argument or someone was being a jerk somewhere in there.

Only if you don't know how to do them, otherwise they're a blast.

I see a bunch of new leafs in Low level's. I wouldn't do it to them.
Think about our baby leafies!

[AlphaSonic]

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So most of the removed ones are the ones that don't matter at all when doing big pulls LOL.

[Starkbeaumont]

...uh... yes?

Then why did you list untraited numbers for shadowskin and dark dance?

[RyuujinZERO]

Then why did you list untraited numbers for shadowskin and dark dance?

I forgot the original values for those, it WAS 4 or 5 months between me playing in HW and playing SB, had a hiatus. Had to dig them off deprecated wiki pages (I thought those numbers sounded too low). I also don't see how this helps disprove my argument, if there numbers are even larger traited then that just represents an even bigger loss of mitigation between HW and SB.

So most of the removed ones are the ones that don't matter at all when doing big pulls LOL.

Dark Dance + Dark Passenger didn't matter on big pulls? - That was one of the single most potent mitigation tricks against large amounts of fluff damage. Dark dance (traitted) was like 30% evasion I want to say? - Plus Blindness, and parry, you were looking at >40% reduction in incoming damage across large sample sizes (ie. auto attack spam)

[Sagittarii]

I play PLD & SCH. As SCH, I usually don't say anything, and I've been able to keep tanks alive, but big pulls are annoying to me if the tank is taking heavy damage. Single target spam curing isn't fun to me, plus I usually have to burn through aetherflow stacks to use the strong heals (Lustrate).

As PLD, I usually don't do big pulls unless I notice a couple of things:
1. DPS is killing super fast
2. I'm barely taking any damage

^These two usually only happen in Lv50/Lv60 dungeons when my iLevel is way above what is needed.

[Naberrie]

I've never once told a tank to power pull as a healer. I used it say "We can try, but if it goes bad we'll need to scale back."

But since SB, I usually say, "Please no." If they do it anyway, and if things go badly, I'll ask them not do to it again. If they do, I'll tell them I'll drop if they do it again.

[bounddreamer]

"Kicked from duty in a premade" except, you can't kick someone from the duty if you are premade.

You're the tank. Don't ask if they can "handle a power pull." Do a pull that's appropriate for a leveling dungeon. That's two packs at most.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

"HG? Really? What, you don't trust my healing or something? I'm insulted."

"Good to know. I don't, FYI." Admittedly my favorite part of using Holmgang is burst healing myself for more than half my HP in a split second.

[Neri]

I don't know man. Judging from the thread a while back where you said macro for monk is feasible while others disagreed with you, and you kept going on about it. So I think that you might have some weird ideas or somethings during the pull that got you kicked?

[bswpayton]

Doing the biggest possible pulls in leveling dungeons is stupid anyway

no its not every dungeon should be done in 20 mins i powerpull everything some healers just need to learn how to heal better