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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealMadruck View Post
    healers had their heals reduced!

    Uh... What?
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I haven't ever been kicked for mass pulling, even if I ended up causing a wipe due to mistiming a cooldown or some such, so I feel like there's something else that's not being mentioned.
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Basically, If there is a wipe from large pulls I downgrade to small ones, regardless of what the healer or others say.
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    Stormfur's Avatar
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    Hex Pathcrosser
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 72
    As a tank, I pull as much as I feel I can realistically handle. No more, no less.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    I see you dont have tried healing in past level 60 dungeons yet, OP - maybe you want to do that and see the problems a healer is facing before you decide wether or not they should be able to handle them.

    I played through the mainquest on my paladin and I did some larger pulls in dungeons aswell - coming from HW-endgame where we could just masspull everything thanks to outgearing the hell out of the content.
    Then I leveled scholar the last week and god, I hated those tanks thinking they can pull everything, forcing me to basically physick-spam. I healed them all through it, granted - but it isnt fun to stand somewhere for a minute, mashing your physick-button, hoping the tank wont die until you get aetherflow back and can immidiaitly spam those three lustrates to get a bit of breathing-room again.
    A lot of pulls I saw are/were also plain stupid - sure, you can pull the two dogs and that ghost in siren sea (last three mobs before the last boss) together, but why the hell do it when the ghost needs some special attention.

    Long story short: I felt very sorry for all the healers that had to put up with my stupid, reckless pulls - I'm a good tank, I use my CDs, I actually pay attention to wether or not we've got AoE... but playing as healer definitly gave me a better perspective of what pulls are okay and what pulls arent.
    I can only advice every tank out there to try healing and base at least some decisions on that experience! Something was stressful-heal-spam for you? Chances are, it might be for someone else too.
    I'm still doing large pulls if I feel a healer can handle it - I also know now what large pulls should be "expected" to heal through. But I also know what dungeons prove to be more stressfull and difficult when certain pulls are done and try to avoid those.
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    bswpayton's Avatar
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    Nic Pay
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    Exodus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I see you dont have tried healing in past level 60 dungeons yet, OP - maybe you want to do that and see the problems a healer is facing before you decide wether or not they should be able to handle them.

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    I actually get bored when a tank pulls three adds at a time and it seems they are more likely to do die cause im not payin attention and maybe talkin in chat and stuff like that I know my fault but still. At level 60 plus this is standard gameplay and people should be use to these big pulls by now, you can do it in shom al , dusk vigil, the avery , the vault, gubal libary all of them so why not do it in these new dungeons as well. My fav pull is in the same dungeon u mention pullin everything after the second boss i hate just pullin those four adds at the start its super boring.

    The issue prob is , that alot of tanks forget they can use living dead, hollowed on pali , I dont know about warrior they seem pretty squsihy so I may do smaller pulls on them when I play them sense they no longer have blood bath anymore. But scholar does kinda suck at the moment Ive noticed they have the hardest time handling the big pulls Ill just hope I dont get to many of them in dungeons anymore fingers crossed.
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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Have to ask, but do you get mouthy after the wipes in any way?

    I've been part of runs where the tank will pull big, and then we end up wiping for one reason or another. We just run back and try again - sometimes with the same pull, other times we adjust and go small. No biggie either way. Haven't seen a tank get kicked yet (or myself as healer).

    Obviously my experiences won't echo everyone else's, but curious to see what is spawning the vote kick.
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    Angely Moonlight
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I can't remember the last time I was kicked from a dungeon as a tanker.

    But I always ask healer if he want big or small pulls.

    Even if he asks for big pulls and he can't handle it, I change to small pulls.

    If people kick me, I leave with clear mind that I do my best.

    I try always do be polite and thank healers for the job well done (and DPS too, if they don't take damage, less healing).
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    Al'tani I'rieseith
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 70
    1. Levelling dungeons are generally a no no when it comes to large pulls.
    2. How do you not know this with two tanks already at 70?
    3. Are you one of those bad's mumma told ma about?
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrsFluffyButt View Post
    1. Levelling dungeons are generally a no no when it comes to large pulls if you dont know what you're doing

    fixed it for you.
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