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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    If you're wasting all the time and potential mana from dissipation just to re-summon the fairy, why are you killing the fairy in the first place?
    you still gain something from it. and im not one to usually be killing my fairy anyways

    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    You do realize that both can be used at the same time? Or that one might be on CD and you still need the mitigation? Or that Fey Covenant only buffs magic defense so is useless against some forms of damage?
    why would you though. give me One fight where both are needed at the same time. give me One fight where there's PHYSICAL raid-wide aoe damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    you still gain something from it. and im not one to usually be killing my fairy anyways
    In situations where you can afford to kill your fairy and spend the additional time to ED and quickcast it back alive, you didn't need the buff anyways.

    why would you though. give me One fight where both are needed at the same time. give me One fight where there's PHYSICAL raid-wide aoe damage.
    For more mitigation? This argument of why would you "need" the mitigation is foolish. Technically you don't "need" any mitigation at all. But more mitigation makes AOE more safe to handle. And I believe the Susano EX sword phase has physical damage on it, correct me if I'm wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    In situations where you can afford to kill your fairy and spend the additional time to ED and quickcast it back alive, you didn't need the buff anyways.
    deeps bro. you can also use it during downtime like ultimates for 3 free aetherflow stacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    For more mitigation? This argument of why would you "need" the mitigation is foolish. Technically you don't "need" any mitigation at all. But more mitigation makes AOE more safe to handle.
    mitigation overkill eats away all your aetherflow stacks so maybe thats why ppl are having mp problems. its literally almost as bad as overhealing
    i say use fey covenant because its both completely free of cost and it also helps you save one succor or indom cast, further reducing your mp usage
    scholars need to start using their whole toolkit intelligently more or should stop complaining about mp, because they have by far the best mp recovery than any other healer

    and no, susanos sword phase is not physical aoe damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    because they have by far the best mp recovery than any other healer
    There's a different post pointing out where you were wrong about that;

    Quote Originally Posted by magnanimousCynic View Post
    Your list is so incomplete it almost screams SCH bias.
    • What about WHM's Thin Air? That's 0 MP cost for 12 seconds. If you had to do PoM + Medica I spam you save about 10k MP. And if you had to, you could spam 6 Cure III to save nearly 14k MP.
    • AST has Lightspeed which reduces MP cost by 25% for 10 seconds while reducing cast times by 2.5 seconds. If you had to spam 4 Helios then you saved 1440 MP.
    • AST can also draw Ewer, which is a base 50 potency refresh for 5 ticks. Extending or Enhancing it can increase this MP regen further.
    • With the AST stuff in mind, they can do Extended Ewer + LD + Lightspeed + CO if MP issues are that severe.


    Those 3-6 energy Drains used at the start of a pull are usually used for DPS, not MP, so they shouldn't be counted as so unless you can somehow spend enough MP in the first 60 seconds to get the full MP benefit of SIX Energy Drains. Spoiler Alert! Most likely not.

    Others have commented on the relative MP cost of an AF stack when not used for Energy Drain so I won't go into that.
    EDIT #1: Also forgot that AST has a cheaper toolkit as a whole compared to WHM and SCH, indirectly giving them better MP regen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowaffle View Post
    There's a different post pointing out where you were wrong about that;
    when do you ever medica spam. i really can only think of the most heal intensive savage fights and probably nidhogg ex
    lightspeed which is rarely ever used in a decent farm party because it reduces dps
    ewer which is usually burned to give aoe rr effect


    yes the other ones are Potentially better, but sch is more consistent
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    Last edited by QooEr; 07-13-2017 at 02:55 AM.