the mp recovery from aetherflow isnt even enough for one adlo

[Ametrine]

Snip.

The singular instance I've personally find Selene to be favorable is Odin's trial. Selene can immediately cleanse some party wide bleeds, preventing Odin from stacking them during the DPS checks. She also cleanses the slows he likes to hit people with too, and her haste can help there.

Every other single moment otherwise, I have Eos out.

I'd scrap Silent Dusk entirely and replace it with a new skill. How about something like a single target defense buff? Help tanks and players with weakness survive hard hits? Maybe like 15% to 20% damage reduction for 10 seconds so it's potent edge, but give it a 60 CD to keep it in line with most tank mitigation skills.

That would fit Selene thematically as the support faerie and would actually be a skill we could easily use and strategize with. Fae Kiss or something.

[Lildragora]

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I like this idea, however increasing the CD is not an option as the fairy abilities share a CD so a Whispering Dawn rework would need to be done and I dont want to trust SE with that.

Its the same reason why I cant support Dissipation being a fairy swap mechanic which would be awesome.

[Ametrine]

More importantly though, why were the fairy abilities not linked to the fairy thats out like others for the button bloat update...

THIS IS A VERY GOOD POINT

[QooEr]

You're forgetting one very important skill, from WHM: Thin Air.
Dissipation IMO, will ALWAYS be a horrible skill. SCH is a PET JOB!
Why are we killing our fairy? I'm shocked they didn't tweak or remove it.
And then you have to waste MP to get her back again.
What you said just makes it sound like Aether is solely used for ED.
I kinda need those for Sacred Soil and Indomitably you know...
Not staring at my book and go "Hm! Lemme just use this for for ED onry!" and attack lol.

u know whats funny i tend to forget to use thin air on whm and im fine because i dont spam medica like a fool

3 ED's from dissipation give more than enough mp to compensate resummining your fairy

sacred soil IS NOT NEEDED EVER. use fey covenant if youre so desperate for mitigation

[Aerowaffle]

u know whats funny i tend to forget to use thin air on whm and im fine because i dont spam medica like a fool
3 ED's from dissipation give more than enough mp to compensate resummining your fairy

If you're wasting all the time and potential mana from dissipation just to re-summon the fairy, why are you killing the fairy in the first place?

sacred soil IS NOT NEEDED EVER. use fey covenant if youre so desperate for mitigation

You do realize that both can be used at the same time? Or that one might be on CD and you still need the mitigation? Or that Fey Covenant only buffs magic defense so is useless against some forms of damage?

[Mikhaill]

u know whats funny i tend to forget to use thin air on whm and im fine because i dont spam medica like a fool

3 ED's from dissipation give more than enough mp to compensate resummining your fairy

sacred soil IS NOT NEEDED EVER. use fey covenant if youre so desperate for mitigation

My response to the Medica and SS never being needed.

Saw this response few hours ago at work, had no words.
Hours later, still don't. So here's a pic.

[QooEr]

My response to the Medica and SS never being needed.

Saw this response few hours ago at work, had no words.
Hours later, still don't. So here's a pic.

im talking about playing with good groups here. healers aren't carry machines. even in pre echo a12s and a11s i rarely ever needed to spam aoe healing except that one time i was solo healing a12s (unless you count doing 2 or 3 casts "spam")

[Aerowaffle]

im talking about playing with good groups here. healers aren't carry machines. even in pre echo a12s and a11s i rarely ever needed to spam aoe healing except that one time i was solo healing a12s (unless you count doing 2 or 3 casts "spam")

All groups are not bastions of excellence either. We're not claiming that SCH should be able to carry groups of players that fail every mechanic, we're talking about the relative power of SCH compared to other healing roles. And more specifically, the mana efficiency to HPS of SCH compared to those other roles.

[QooEr]

All groups are not bastions of excellence either. We're not claiming that SCH should be able to carry groups of players that fail every mechanic, we're talking about the relative power of SCH compared to other healing roles. And more specifically, the mana efficiency to HPS of SCH compared to those other roles.

i do agree that scholar cant aoe heal spam and could probably use a buff in its healing or mp costs, but so far aoe heal spam hasnt been needed most of the times (and besides, you have a cohealer. if a fight is seriously so heal intensive that you need to desperately aoe heal spam its not like youre going to be solo healing it or dual sch). as for mp efficiency, indom and lustrate "cost" 1200 mp (that aetherflow stack could be used on an energy drain, which gives 1200 mp). so you have scholar with an instant aoe heal for 1200 mp. helios costs 1440 and medica 1680. you also get deployment tactics aka 300 potency aoe "heal" for 1800mp or 900 potency if the adlo crits. whispering dawn is a completely free medica 2 (and you can rouse it so it does 40% more every single time).

for single target healing theres also the fairy (nerfed, granted, but its still completely free 250 potency healing every 3 seconds. over a minute thats 5000 potency per minute which is way higher than essential dignity or tetragramaton) and fey union, a 480 potency REGEN on a single target. and adlo might cost 600 mp more than a lustrate, but since it can crit and double its shield effectiveness its probably a fair tradeoff

the cost for succor though... i dont know why its so high

[QooEr]

If you're wasting all the time and potential mana from dissipation just to re-summon the fairy, why are you killing the fairy in the first place?

you still gain something from it. and im not one to usually be killing my fairy anyways

You do realize that both can be used at the same time? Or that one might be on CD and you still need the mitigation? Or that Fey Covenant only buffs magic defense so is useless against some forms of damage?

why would you though. give me One fight where both are needed at the same time. give me One fight where there's PHYSICAL raid-wide aoe damage.