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    ErzaScarlet77's Avatar
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    Lili Reina
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    Dragoon Lv 80

    the mp recovery from aetherflow isnt even enough for one adlo

    i know sch was kinda op in 3.0 but what the hell?
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    It's all over the healer forum right now. SCH was nerfed hard and while it's still viable you have MUCH less room for error than before and really can't main heal at all in eight man content without performing perfectly. Given the outrage I wouldn't be surprised if it was one of the next classes buffed.
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming (you didn't have this before) + Energy Drain x3 + Dissipation -> Energy Drain x3, or instead of Energy Draining using those stacks for heals instead of using Adlo, using Rouse to give your MP a break.

    I'm not telling you not to complain, but I'm hoping that a few more people can actually see how much MP Scholars actually have.
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    Mako Hext
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    post promoting energy drain
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming (you didn't have this before) + Energy Drain x3 + Dissipation -> Energy Drain x3, or instead of Energy Draining using those stacks for heals instead of using Adlo, using Rouse to give your MP a break.

    I'm not telling you not to complain, but I'm hoping that a few more people can actually see how much MP Scholars actually have.
    So wait.

    You want me to Energy drain 3 times to make up for the Aetherflow gut?

    Also, you want me to dissipation? And then use Energy drain 3 times? So I can waste the extra mana and a swiftcast to get the nerf'd fairy back?
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    So wait.

    You want me to Energy drain 3 times to make up for the Aetherflow gut?

    Also, you want me to dissipation? And then use Energy drain 3 times? So I can waste the extra mana and a swiftcast to get the nerf'd fairy back?
    Exactly. Who needs Lustrate, or Indom, or Soil, or Bane? All about that energy drain baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    To be fair, it's not so much a flame war as it's 12 pages of people agreeing the OP is an idiot.

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    Freyt's Avatar
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    Rabbit Ackerman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    So wait.

    You want me to Energy drain 3 times to make up for the Aetherflow gut?

    Also, you want me to dissipation? And then use Energy drain 3 times? So I can waste the extra mana and a swiftcast to get the nerf'd fairy back?
    Everyone has full health, you're at half MP, Aetherflow is off cooldown...... you won't use Energy Drain because oh man you MIGHT need Lustrate for some reason.

    No, you're using Aetherflow wrong. If Aetherflow is off cooldown, then you use up your stacks and you put it back on cooldown.
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    Iveriad's Avatar
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    Riella Rhelianah
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Everyone has full health, you're at half MP, Aetherflow is off cooldown...... you won't use Energy Drain because oh man you MIGHT need Lustrate for some reason.

    No, you're using Aetherflow wrong. If Aetherflow is off cooldown, then you use up your stacks and you put it back on cooldown.
    ^Now this is a much better explanation. I agree with this.

    Now when I'm playing scholar, I used Lucid Dreaming at half MP, and Energy Drain (or Indomitability to top off the party because I like watching everyone at full health) when Aetherflow is off cooldown.
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    TristanBlane's Avatar
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    Crucius Lapin
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    agreed, this really needs to be fixed ;/
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    Barrie Capdevila
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    Aetherflow + Lucid Dreaming (you didn't have this before) + Energy Drain x3 + Dissipation -> Energy Drain x3, or instead of Energy Draining using those stacks for heals instead of using Adlo, using Rouse to give your MP a break.

    I'm not telling you not to complain, but I'm hoping that a few more people can actually see how much MP Scholars actually have.
    Might as well say, stand around doing nothing = Unlimited Mana.

    In reality?

    You could not do Energy Drain once, because the fight is actually hard? -> Lose a lot of mana.

    Dissipation for Mana Reg.. did you actually play Scholar once? You have to pay 2.400 mana to get the fairy back, which is 2 Energy Drains already lol... and also you have to waste 60 seconds of swiftcast, this is a terrible way to reg mana.

    So if based on your logic, we have to gimp ourselves, to use the mp "we actually have", then gg...

    I'm not even from the complaining camp, i did not have any problems with mana management in any content available right now, i even enjoy the raise in "difficulty" to heal as a scholar, but your comment does not make any sense at all.
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