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  1. #251
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I really want Chemist from FFX-2 to be implemented, but call it something else. I'd love for a non-aetheric healer to be put into the game. They can even rework the gun aesthetic so that they don't upset their delicate balance of never providing the same weapon across two classes, save the Arcanist classes but they'll never do that again, but I really would like something that isn't lots of magical effects that blind me when cast.

    All in all I just want more healing options, though SE seems hesitant to provide.
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  2. #252
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Well they did mention sort of working on a mystic sort of healer for SB, but didnt use it. Time Mage appears in HW hildibrand quest line, even hacing enough lore in that quest to seperate it from AST as Allagan based, but ultimately just restorative magic as well... I could see a third ranged dps get squeezed in, as well as Tank and Healer. Maybe a crossbow Ranger, crossing tamer and archer from V and having that X-Fight mechanic to it, or do the whole dps/support with DNC but give it chakrams or something. It was sort of the counterpart to BRD in FFT...

    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I really want Chemist from FFX-2 to be implemented, but call it something else. I'd love for a non-aetheric healer to be put into the game. They can even rework the gun aesthetic so that they don't upset their delicate balance of never providing the same weapon across two classes, save the Arcanist classes but they'll never do that again, but I really would like something that isn't lots of magical effects that blind me when cast.

    All in all I just want more healing options, though SE seems hesitant to provide.
    even a rifle or shotgun/2 handed version would differ. I would like to see a tp based healer, similar to chm. Theres always the
    mix" ability too. Though I dont know how similar itd work compared to cards. Probably the no RNG version
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 07-12-2017 at 03:31 PM.

  3. #253
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazrah View Post
    Back when DoM one-handed weapons were a thing, these wands were the ones that CNJ/WHM had. They came in various shapes, that image being the most common, but it looked like he held his weapon much like a Conjurer weapon.
    Basically Kyokuho was, from a gameplay standpoint, a Conjurer in every way. Think he even tossed out Aeros from what I recall. But the club could easily pass as a stylized hand bell.

    But as people have already mentioned, its just possible that this could be a placeholder and Conjurer is the most similar/relevant existing class for now. And to be fair, it is also equally possible that this whole Geomancer storyline is the dev's way of acknowledging Geomancer without having to actually incorporate them into the game as a job proper (hope that's not the case).Think: "sorry, we never had plans for Geomancer to be playable but wanted to do a shout-out to the job-" if asked in an interview later.

    And while I know a lot of people are caught-up with how Geomancers are affiliated with the elements that already make up Conjurers in-game, the storyline did make multiple nods to feng shui as a big part of their lore (they are literally "feng shui soldier" in japanese), so I would fully expect them to have their own flair in whatever it is they'd do.
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  4. #254
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    Slirith's Avatar
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    Astarotte Niuhali
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Don't care what is added as long as BST isn't a tank when/if it's added.
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  5. #255
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    Ry0uSh1n's Avatar
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    Ryoushin Mizuki
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Following up from my initial post, given that i've noticed some of the new instance gear names, it is now my speculation that the new jobs will be from a list of the following:

    Blue Mage - From a mog letter received from pre-ordering SB.
    Geomancer - Involved in Ast quests. Which it is my belief that if geo is part of the next jobs introduced odds are it will be unlocked in Kugane.
    Rune Fencer - The name sticks out from the gear dropped from the level 69 instance.

    Has anyone found any subtle hints referring to possible new jobs?
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  6. #256
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Wouldn't mind seeing a dual sword wielding class. The bull of ala mihgo did this before events caused an inability to hold 2 swords. Could call it Duelist or Swordmaster

    Templar - Tank using 1 handed pike and a shield. Possibly focused around mitigating damage to themselves while trying to bolster their allies with buffs or inflict defensive debuffs on enemies to improve ally damage output.

    Beastmaster - Not sure how to classify it. Weapon options could be either whip or use an axe and shield. Don't think taming spawned enemies would work well in FFXIV like it did in FFXI however I think it could work with a system based off the pot items on FFXI that could be used to summon a specific type of animal. It would then be up to the BST to determine what animal would be best for the situation.

    Anyway just tossing ideas.
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  7. #257
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    Lildragora's Avatar
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    Lillian Mandragora
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    I really want Chemist from FFX-2 to be implemented, but call it something else. I'd love for a non-aetheric healer to be put into the game. They can even rework the gun aesthetic so that they don't upset their delicate balance of never providing the same weapon across two classes, save the Arcanist classes but they'll never do that again, but I really would like something that isn't lots of magical effects that blind me when cast.

    All in all I just want more healing options, though SE seems hesitant to provide.
    Chemist would be my number one. I would love the idea of using something like mix for combat and healing effects, acting similar to like... Ninjitsu maybe, just make a selection based on some abilities and get a outcome among having your "stash" items plus a few others. maybe even the ability to consume actually items you brought and throw them at people for no cast time and a reduced cd for rate of use vs the Stash items as you rummage through a bag. The gun would be fun too.

    Maybe, 4-8 abilities 4 of which are stash potions and a stash remedy and then some damaging ones like Grenades, Bolt Plums and such. Of course filling in with other abilities. For the mix each could consume a set amount of TP as you select up to a set TP use threshold, like say 300 (not actually using the TP for mix as a sort of "MP" management type of deal, just the total selection can be up to this amount of used TP). Some would use 50, others 100,150, ect. Traits could include more potent select items, quicker item CDs, Better TP regeneration and stuff like that. Also you would have a huge selection of possible abilities. Could mix potions and mega potions for a higher aoe cure or mix like a grenade and mega potion for something like assize as two easy examples. Would be amazing!
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    Last edited by Lildragora; 07-12-2017 at 05:46 PM.

  8. #258
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    Ametrine's Avatar
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Wouldn't mind seeing a dual sword wielding class. The bull of ala mihgo did this before events caused an inability to hold 2 swords. Could call it Duelist or Swordmaster.
    From a thematic standpoint, Raubahn's reputation on the Bloodsands implies that he was likely a true Berserker. At least back in those days.


    I do wonder if a TP healer would be a better received job. Both dancer or chemist/apothecary could fit that.

    I just wrote up a whole post that was basically the same idea as Lildragora, lol. She explained it better.

    As for weapon, why not make the potions themselves it? You equip bottles! You could also have them deal with more noxious mixtures to aid DPS.
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    Last edited by Ametrine; 07-12-2017 at 05:18 PM.

  9. #259
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I do wonder if a TP healer would be a better received job. Both dancer or chemist/apothecary could fit that.
    Yeah, if that was made into a healer, for DNC, I would be so happy. Could be woven in really well too. Maybe a healer that has to get stuck in near the boss to do its support best? That would make for very interesting gameplay for me.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  10. #260
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    Telvorei's Avatar
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    Joshua Bernard
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    Adamantoise
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Cidel View Post
    And to be fair, it is also equally possible that this whole Geomancer is the dev's way of acknowledging Geomancer without having to actually incorporate them into the game as a job proper (hope that's not the case).Think: "sorry, we never had plans for Geomancer to be playable but wanted to do a shout-out to the job-" if asked in an interview later.
    I agreed with everything up until here. In an interview Yoshida did state that adding jobs to the game is a big thing, and a big aspect of final fantasy. As long as the game is alive and pressing forward, they will continue to add new jobs. So I don't think we will have to worry about it never coming. Geomancer has enough history in Final Fantasy to be considered a classic job.

    Altogether with how it's being teased and treated now, Geomancer reminds me a lot of how Arcanist was treated back in 1.0
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