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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    Mogstation, really?
    I've been playing since 2015 and already got myself a house. It's not impossible.
    I do like that we got neighborhoods and not only instanced houses. If you do like instances though, there's the apartments. Or you could request actual instanced houses, with more stories and rooms and whatnot.
    I think it's mainly regarding the fact that there are practically no houses available anywhere on some of the servers due to people buying multiple to sell for more at a later date, or to have one in each zone.

    Personally, the MogStation idea is not ideal. Them adding more wards would be, but they also need to limit the number of houses people can buy in a district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I think it's mainly regarding the fact that there are practically no houses available anywhere on some of the servers due to people buying multiple to sell for more at a later date, or to have one in each zone.

    Personally, the MogStation idea is not ideal. Them adding more wards would be, but they also need to limit the number of houses people can buy in a district.
    Yeah but I got one :O There weren't any available, yes you have to hunt this which may not be ideal for some. And yes, I work full time, and have a life and blah blah. But I wanted a house, and was determined to get one so I did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    Yeah but I got one :O There weren't any available, yes you have to hunt this which may not be ideal for some. And yes, I work full time, and have a life and blah blah. But I wanted a house, and was determined to get one so I did.
    Again, it depends on the server. Some it will be much easier than others to get a house on. I myself am going to do my best to get a house when the new district opens, but if I fail at that, then who knows.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    Never mind limiting the number of houses people (single players) can buy in a district, they need to limit it to one personal house per server, per account, and an additional allowance for 1 Free Company house if the player is a FC master also.

    The redistribution of player population to new and underpopulated servers over time will help things, and it seems to me that SE wants much of that movement to happen before they open Shirogane specifically to ease the immediate rush for housing.

    I think they need to deal with multiple personal houses per server/account before opening Shirogane as well since it's completely obvious that there are players with the resources and willingness to abuse the situation for personal gain at the expense of other players.
    Definitely, I myself(mostly because I don't craft and am somewhat of a hoarder) almost have enough to buy a Medium based on the current price listed by the NPC. I'm hoping to get one, but if I can't get one of those, maybe a small instead. If I get luck with the medium, I will definitely start crafting more so I can furnish it cheaper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    I think it's mainly regarding the fact that there are practically no houses available anywhere on some of the servers due to people buying multiple to sell for more at a later date, or to have one in each zone.

    Personally, the MogStation idea is not ideal. Them adding more wards would be, but they also need to limit the number of houses people can buy in a district.
    Never mind limiting the number of houses people (single players) can buy in a district, they need to limit it to one personal house per server, per account, and an additional allowance for 1 Free Company house if the player is a FC master also.

    The redistribution of player population to new and underpopulated servers over time will help things, and it seems to me that SE wants much of that movement to happen before they open Shirogane specifically to ease the immediate rush for housing.

    I think they need to deal with multiple personal houses per server/account before opening Shirogane as well since it's completely obvious that there are players with the resources and willingness to abuse the situation for personal gain at the expense of other players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    INB4

    Need to pay rent for houses on mog station

    90% of housing items in RNG gambling boxes on mog station

    30 day timer gets lowered to 15 day timer unless you pay extra on the mog station

    Basically, no thanks.
    Paying in any way on Mogstation for housing is a non-starter at this point. It shouldn't even be discussed in jest. It's a bad, bad idea.

    RNG gambling boxes on Mogstation!? Are you freaking crazy. That's absolutely the path to and a trick directly from the playbook of, free to play. No, freaking, thanks.


    See even though I know you don't want these things, your post comes too close to sounding serious...triggered.

    IMHO the auto-demolition timer shouldn't start until a player's subscription ends. Also, it's a 45 day timer, and I agree with that duration since it provides 6 weeks for a player to re-sub before losing their house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post

    That's absolutely the path to and a trick directly from the playbook of, free to play.

    ...triggered.
    Funny part is SWTOR has RNG gambling boxes (for everything including in-game currency AND GEAR) and they have a subscription model. It's also one of the lowest populated AAA MMO's.

    I do hope that SE has morals and wont add cash shop gambling, but part of me worries after seeing what happened to SWTOR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    The redistribution of player population to new and underpopulated servers over time will help things, and it seems to me that SE wants much of that movement to happen before they open Shirogane specifically to ease the immediate rush for housing.
    But there is a massive draw back to that, many people who server transferred did so for either the rewards or to escape the NA server explosion, even I transferred to escape that mess. And I can tell from what I seen there are tons of people wanting to go back to NA. After the 90 day probationary period ends, the NA servers are going to see a likely increase of players again. If they open the wards now, they will get bought up immediately, now if they wait until after the 90 day server lockout, they're playing with fire because the fact every server except the few truly congested will be open back up, and we might see a resurgence of congestion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    But there is a massive draw back to that, many people who server transferred did so for either the rewards or to escape the NA server explosion, even I transferred to escape that mess. And I can tell from what I seen there are tons of people wanting to go back to NA. After the 90 day probationary period ends, the NA servers are going to see a likely increase of players again. If they open the wards now, they will get bought up immediately, now if they wait until after the 90 day server lockout, they're playing with fire because the fact every server except the few truly congested will be open back up, and we might see a resurgence of congestion.
    I think their definition of what is and is not congested needs adjusting. I'm on behemoth and I can't remember the last time it was open for character creation, it's housing wards are full, and have been pretty much forever, and yet we are not a congested world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetstream_Fox View Post
    But there is a massive draw back to that, many people who server transferred did so for either the rewards or to escape the NA server explosion, even I transferred to escape that mess. And I can tell from what I seen there are tons of people wanting to go back to NA. After the 90 day probationary period ends, the NA servers are going to see a likely increase of players again. If they open the wards now, they will get bought up immediately, now if they wait until after the 90 day server lockout, they're playing with fire because the fact every server except the few truly congested will be open back up, and we might see a resurgence of congestion.
    Simply put, make all EU servers except Louisoix (since we're a very quiet EU server), and all NA servers with more than 3k characters registered total (not even active) congested servers, keep them that way for 10 years. Problem solved. People wouldn't be able to go back to the more populous servers (including myself), and SE have plenty time to open up the Shirogane wards and have people invest there.

    I'd also argue for the opening of a 2nd EU datacentre and moving Louisoix to it, and opening some extra new servers there too. Try and help stem the duty finder congestion issues that are apoarentky STILL cropping up for EU players.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zied View Post
    I can empathize, I have been saving for a large house for years now. Housing is my favorite part of the game. That being said, I still find it stupid that people beg SE to take their money by adding houses on the mog station when they could ask for them to fix the system instead.
    Agreed. I'm sure they could easily create a new area with instanced housing. They pulled it off to an extent with apartments (and said they can be scaled up much more easily with demand). I'm pretty sure the next step after that is instanced housing (maybe keep it FC only? and iterate on apartments by adding a balcony area with astroturf so you can do some housing-like gardening there - as in cross-breeding? I think that would help stem some of the issues with people feeling short-changed with housing)
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 07-12-2017 at 02:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.