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  1. #41
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Bevelle, Besaid Island
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Talec View Post
    Quite sad how this thread...
    Galvuu already answered in perfection to your mindset. I just wanna add that even MCH is weak there is no content which can't be cleared by this cls - SBs difficult level is a joke for itself. the problem is not that they can't beat stuff - the problem is that people lock the weaker cls out to save time. and thats not just MCH in this case. so please get the point before you even try to argue with people. And whats that limit gauge penalty argument for? the discussion is about primal farm grps - noone cares dbl cls in this manner, its not savage... calm down and try again.
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-11-2017 at 12:39 AM.

  2. #42
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    BloodRubyXII's Avatar
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    Owa Owa
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shortie View Post
    You miss the point.
    Your point is because some uppity pug leaders were being picky (with good enough reason, if I only had one ranged spot left in my party BRD is a no-brainer, it was last patch too) and wanted what they felt was their ideal comp; MCH is unwanted as a whole. You are not pushing world first (I'd think), you weren't joining speed-kill groups (if you were, you're not the only job that can't get into them), even just going through my PF now - multiple groups either have a MCH or aren't specifying which RDPS they'd prefer. I'm not denying MCH is weak, I just feel you are exaggerating your issues. In case you're going to be at the end of this and think "yeah well you're an AST, you don't know what it's like to be underpowered right now in an unforgiving pugworld" - my other 70 healer is a Scholar, which everyone claims is weak yet I've never been refused entry to a party for it (unless they already have a SCH, in which case, I wouldn't apply in the first place).


    tldr - pug leaders can set what limits they require, if they want bis from each role type; someone will always be excluded from that. If you start your own group, this becomes less of a problem for you.
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  3. #43
    Player Neela's Avatar
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    Flower Girl
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    Zodiark
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Sure they can it just shows how sad the overall community got nowadays... it's like in rl: character is how you treat people who actually cant do something for you in return.
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    Last edited by Neela; 07-11-2017 at 01:31 AM.

  4. #44
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I think by this point MCH is forever stuck with bad design choices that will kick them to the bottom of the Barrel. It has been MCH issues that it seems SE just can't figure out how to properly balance MCH since its first release in 3.0

    MCH will need a serious revamp if this keeps up or maybe now needs it. Unless SE is intensionally making MCH bad so players would stop playing it.
    If that were the case, they could've left SMN the way it was in 2.x, and PLD, MCH, and AST the way they were Gordias.
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  5. #45
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    The_NPC's Avatar
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    Character
    Ritza Solair
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 79
    MCH is my ranged DPS class (& 2nd to lv70 using MSQ & Fates only... PLD was 1st as its my main since I started & dungeon grinding with it is easy) MCH will always be my ranged DPS class, unless they add a duo-guns class thats as fun. That said MNK was my 3.0 Melee DPS for lol's, cause of elixer field no joke whole reason, but reading its new "Riddle" skills turned me off it... I will keep its lv60 ilv260ish gear thou as my SAM will need it soon enouf (to much sword-based anime watched lately... also Kenshin, gods damn that badass fool)
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    What some see as "distracted" is really "fathoming the unfathomable" - last words from an Ul'dahn Mercurial Chemister at the battle of Carteneau

  6. #46
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    KingFrost's Avatar
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    Arc Papillon
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    This kind of nonsense sickens me. Just a bunch of head-up-their-asses, responsibility deflecting, shit rotation jerks who don't see people behind the the model, just numbers that could potentially get a clear, not for the party, not for the other player but for them.

    Screw them. May they find no solace in their mid-core hell of mediocre damage and inability to critique one's own self and performance. Cause that's all it is. "Derp why line up cooldowns properly when I can get deeps crry from Sam." Ugh.

    Sorry about that. Got a little indignant there.
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  7. #47
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    Ronzeru's Avatar
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    Dorian Makai
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    hahahaha its like Drg in FFXI all over again.
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  8. #48
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    Shunye's Avatar
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    Shunye Windlash
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    Diabolos
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    Archer Lv 70
    the reason people put "no (x-class) allowed" is because of people on the forums making everything think that those classes can't perform. I have seen really good mch, just like i have seen really good players for most classes. A really good mch, will still outperform a terrible player on any other class.
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  9. #49
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    BorisDaBlade's Avatar
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    Boris Taglia
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    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Because Balmung is the benchmark for ffxiv. Smh.
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  10. #50
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    Atriamithra's Avatar
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    Persephone Machena
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 50
    I have been pointing this out all day today, I haven't figured out exactly what rotation and such happened and I will continue to test but I saw a 19k Wildfire. Which would mean that the Mch was hitting around 10k an ability till it went off!! Don't give up!! We will figure our this sequence and melt away all the hate!! lol
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