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  1. #21
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    It's popped up a few times on my server as well tonight, though they were really polite about it. Had some time to kill before dinner and I wanted to learn Susano EX, asked a couple of learning parties if I could join, and they refused me because MCH has low damage. It's a mentality being pushed because MCH aren't "meta" right now, and goodness knows you can't play this game if you aren't in the meta. /sarcasm
    It's not really a "meta" thing. Most PF groups, especially learning / clear groups, are really bad at the fights and often meet enrage because of low DPS. If they meet enrage with high DPS jobs, they're completely justified in not wanting a lower DPS job in the group as sad as it is.
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  2. #22
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    Avia_Frost's Avatar
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    Character
    Avia Frost
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    Pretty much this. Whenever I see any class being singled out like this it's often by players who aren't all that skilled in their own right. MCH can't put out the /best/ numbers right now, but a MCH who knows what they're doing is far more preferable to me than a subpar SAM who is just spamming whatever looks cool. I can't tell you how many times I've out DPS'd the supposedly easiest class to currently play in content simply because they're rolling their face all over the keyboard.
    Couldn't agree more. I play SMN main and started to see PFs removing SMN from primal ex. People who do this only show that they are looking to be dps-carrired. It's sad.
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  3. #23
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    Elnidfse's Avatar
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    Character
    Rigel Regulus
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Players will always take the path of least resistance. It has nothing to do with how good they are individually. If they can take an edge. They'll take it. And right now that edge excludes SMN and MCH from SOME clearing parties. It's important to note that you can always just make your own clearing party and people won't give a care
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  4. #24
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    Lyrai_Celestine's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyrai Celestine
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Umm... I'm sorry if I'm intruding here, but is there a good reason why SE decided to put a very tight enrage timer on the EX primals in Stormblood? I mean, I heard it was 11 minutes? Despite being able to clear it (Videos of MCH clearing Susano EX and Lakhsmi EX does exist!) I feel like things would be much better if there's at least 13 minutes before the enemy goes enraged.

    In any case, if I were to put up a PF for the EX primals, I will accept anyone, even MCH, and will kick anyone who mocks on a player because of meta. It's just too painful for them, I'm sure. They've been practicing all this time, spending their blood and sweat just to get to 70, doing their best... Forgive me, I guess I was just emotional all of a sudden.

    The only other thing that I'd probably make as requirement is to clear the Earth, Sky, Stone of Susano EX.
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    Last edited by Lyrai_Celestine; 07-10-2017 at 01:37 PM.

  5. #25
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    Chevronone's Avatar
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    Character
    O-o O-o
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 1
    If that party is locking out roles, chances are it's a trap party.
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  6. #26
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    Farrell's Avatar
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    Character
    Corwynt Farrell
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    How far behind is Mch even supposed to be? We looked at the difference in numbers as soon as we could, yet now when I look at both primal fights mch and brd has evened out just about in damage. What am I missing?
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  7. #27
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    Pence's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Bravo Whiskey
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrai_Celestine View Post
    Umm... I'm sorry if I'm intruding here, but is there a good reason why SE decided to put a very tight enrage timer on the EX primals in Stormblood? I mean, I heard it was 11 minutes? Despite being able to clear it (Videos of MCH clearing Susano EX and Lakhsmi EX does exist!) I feel like things would be much better if there's at least 13 minutes before the enemy goes enraged.
    There's a DPS check? I've cleared it easily with 2 MCHs. The fights are pretty faceroll, if people can't get it down by enrage then they need to clean up their game.
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  8. #28
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    Riotpersona's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Asbel Furybrand
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 70
    The dps check wasn't even that tight in a mix of 290 and 300 gear. If people can't do it at this point then it doesn't matter what job they bring.
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  9. #29
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    AmandaLashaquoa's Avatar
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    Amanda Lashaquoa
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 70
    It was just a matter of time, at least now its a good reason (if anyone thought it wouldn't be necessary) to buff MCH.
    I do remember a few days ago peoples here saying that something like this would never happen (lol) but any weakER job is prone to that, it happens to DRKs (which I showed pictures in another post) so why wouldn't it happen to MCH when there are so many DPSers to chose from?
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    Last edited by AmandaLashaquoa; 07-10-2017 at 08:42 PM.

  10. #30
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    Galvuu's Avatar
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    Character
    Galveira Vorfeed
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I have like 5 screenshots of no BLM parties too.
    I tried reasoning with the leader (and even had to upload some 99% Lak EX parses I got on the PF) and they still wouldn't relent.
    I mean, my own fault for bringing some BLM issues to light.

    My MCH friend is now playing BRD and my SMN friend is now playing RDM.
    My heart goes out to you (even I'm a filthy meta slave and went RDM qq).
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