Some interesting numbers on 4.0 BLM

[Sarynth]

At that SpS, how many procs were you able to fit within one AF window? Did foul line up at umbral ice every time? I'm thinking of jumping ship and dropping some SpS in favor of DH/Crit.

Didn't really count procs but I could reliably hit firestarter at the end of astral fire before blizzard 3 with the 3.x rotation with thundercloud procs being doable but would probably cost me af/ui/enochian if I had to handle mechanics. 4.x rotation I dropped enochian a few times due to trying to fit procs in. Would definitely have to agree spell speed 1200 bare minimum to make it somewhat less clunky and safe for handling mechanics with someone above me mentioning 1600 spell speed being the magic number. Oh and for the most part foul usually lined up nicely (blizzard 3 > foul > thunder 3/thundercloud proc > fire 3)

[soslinky]

You can't buff Foul because of SAM damage... it would render SMN's Akh Morn useless and SMN AoE damage got gutted so much that now BLM does better aoe damage. If anything Foul potency should be nerfed or if kept at the same potency then Akh Morn should be buffed.

Why would buffing Foul render SMN's Akh Morn useless? You can't call SMN useless just because BLM is better at AOE. You have a raise, we have scathe.

[Kabooa]

Why would buffing Foul render SMN's Akh Morn useless? You can't call SMN useless just because BLM is better at AOE. You have a raise, we have scathe.

Of all the abilities they got rid of, -scathe- was what they thought was worth keeping.

/facepalm

[NoxLumina]

My feelings are confused.
I hate how broken this is. How poorly designed.

On the other hand I can keep doing my beloved 3.0 rotation.
Hm.

[Core1019]

Of all the abilities they got rid of, -scathe- was what they thought was worth keeping.

/facepalm

Don't forget Freeze.

[EllieShadeflare]

At least Freeze lets you AoE while in Umbral Ice. What, were you really gonna use Blizzard II?

[Lelila38]

At least Freeze lets you AoE while in Umbral Ice. What, were you really gonna use Blizzard II?

I use neither, lol.

Of all the abilities they got rid of, -scathe- was what they thought was worth keeping.

/facepalm

Scathe is not useless and I'm happy they didn't remove it. If our instant casts are down, this is the only thing we have to keep at least hitting while on the move.
Also it's just great for quickly pulling stuff in open world, for example to get some credit on those fast dying fate mobs.

[soslinky]

I've been thinking about SE's design of BLM Stormblood skills and I'm thinking maybe the 6 F4 & 1 F1 rotation wasn't really their design for the job. Maybe the old 3.0 rotation is actually the 4.0 rotation they intended for us to use. Perhaps they intended for UH to be used exclusively for the AOE rotation and for it to be useless/PPS loss for the single target rotation seeing as double Flare+Foul completely annihilates mob pulls. I certainly hope this isn't the case though. I was excited at the prospect of having 6 F4s per AF cycle but the PPS is on par with 3.0 which is much, much easier to perform and will actually yield more DPS thanks to some leeway for movement. But if this is the case, I want SE themselves to tell us BLMs directly that "4.0 skills are for AOE, not for single target". Either they tell me that or they change them to actually be a DPS increase come 4.05.

[Lelila38]

Been doing some ex primal runs yesterday and according to my Fc mate, who was parsing, my numbers were significantly higher only using B4 in opener. I'm however trying to keep using it in combination with Triplecast, whenever this is up we have enough freedom of movement for the 3-1-3 rotation, so why not use it there.

[NoxLumina]

Sweet Christ I can't wait to tell the people in my group about this.

They're gonna laugh their asses off.