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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    I wasn't asking what accessories it would use; I was asking whether that hypothetical scenario would indicate Samurai's main stat to be VIT. Regardless, that's not the situation we find ourselves in.
    Yes, its main stat would be VIT, even if it's damaging stat is STR. The problem with tanks is that they're the only job whose main stat is not their damaging stat (Since healers could bypass it by using Cleric Stance...and it was changed anyway.)

    If SE really wouldn't healer to kill things and weren't afraid of the backslah, they'd have removed Cleric Stance but still tied damage to INT. And I'm pretty sure no healer would have really defended having "too much MND".
    Quote Originally Posted by aleph_null View Post
    Back in gordias you'd see 8 disappointed people everytime a vit acc drops, and that's definitely not a good thing, but if nothing changes, it'll just happen again in omega savage. I hope they can do something in 4.05.
    Don't worry, they'll probably fix the "I can wear i270 STR accessories" overlook so VIT acc will still be a DPS increase...by secondary stats alone
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 07-07-2017 at 10:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Don't sorry, they'll probably fix the "I can wear i270 STR accessories" overlook so VIT acc will still be a DPS incease...by secondary stats alone
    Sadly even I can agree that it's the easiest bandaid solution to this problem. I guess when I no longer enjoy optimizing as a tank due to the dps gap between tanks and dps jobs I'll just roll a dps or find a different game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Yes, its main stat would be VIT, even if it's damaging stat is STR.
    Seriously?

    Tell me plainly how you would define "main stat," please.
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    Last edited by Argyle_Darkheart; 07-07-2017 at 10:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Tell me plainly how you would define "main stat," please.
    The stat that determines what gear you have priority on.

    EDIT : Right, our traits too ! Thanks Shao32
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 07-07-2017 at 11:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argyle_Darkheart View Post
    Seriously?

    Tell me plainly how you would define "main stat," please.
    our gear and our own traits define VIT is our main stat, damage stats dont have to be our main stat at all, until stormblood healers main stat was and is mind how only affect healing outpot now they damage scale with mind too but that was desing choise of how silly was the comunity around cleric stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    our gear and our own traits define VIT is our main stat, damage stats dont have to be our main stat at all, until stormblood healers main stat was and is mind how only affect healing outpot now they damage scale with mind too but that was desing choise of how silly was the comunity around cleric stance.
    You have to be a real lazy or just plain bad player if you can't cleric stance dance as a healer in 3.X.
    In JP servers the majority of the healers here does cleric stance dance all the time in ID and savage content and nobody ever says i'm a healer i heal only over here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmacus View Post
    You have to be a real lazy or just plain bad player if you can't cleric stance dance as a healer in 3.X.
    In JP servers the majority of the healers here does cleric stance dance all the time in ID and savage content and nobody ever says i'm a healer i heal only over here.
    i dont say the contrary, but cleric stance was clunky and the worst skill i never face, when i was playing AST just for change a bit in 24 man and roulettes i always find this skill so akward in the way i waste instan cure thanks of how works.

    but my main point is the primary stat is define by role not for this do damage.
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