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    Evaddaragon's Avatar
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    Evad D'aragon
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    I don't know if it's serious or trolling... but I'll bite regardless.


    Tanking in DPS stance with STR accessories with healers you don't know is asking for trouble because you expect their reaction time to be higher than almost all pure strangers' are. But the reason the STR meta happened in the first place is because people were looking for ways to get things done even quicker (in Gordias Savage's case, it was to get things done at all). People have proven it can work... under the right conditions. What got out of hand is that the (very) vocal minority made it look like it was supposed to be done all the time no matter the conditions and if you weren't doing things "the only good way", you're automically "bad".

    But whether you tank in tank stance with VIT accessories or in DPS stance with STR accessories (or anything in between), simply using your enmity combo is doing it wrong. Ever since Stormblood launched, as I did leveling dungeons, I stayed in tank stance, and even as I was doing Omega Normal yesterday, I didn't need to use a single Halone combo if I tanked in tank stance, unless I tank swapped on Exdeath to solidify hate. Our boost to enmity modifiers are that good, really. They even were decently good in Heavensward, as the reason I even used the Halone combo in tank stance actually was more because of the debuff than actual enmity generation.

    Now, as people are worried that the DPS gap will widen over the expansion because tanks simply get VIT on their accessories, I'm not worried one bit because :

    1- It was exactly like that in ARR and it never happened. Why would it be different now? Sure, our numbers got bigger but has the actual proportion widened between ARR and SB? No, it did not.

    2- It was announced that there would be adjustments come patch 4.05... in...two...friggin'...WEEKS. Could we at least wait until that time before panicking?

    But since the debate has been going since patch 3.0, about two years ago, I'm not expecting people to stop anytime soon.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddaragon View Post
    Now, as people are worried that the DPS gap will widen over the expansion because tanks simply get VIT on their accessories, I'm not worried one bit because :
    I suspect a lot of them are complaining because they got used to the MTing in DpS stance meta and the new meta and they fear that the new meta is going to force them to tank in tank stance hurting their dps parses.
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I suspect a lot of them are complaining because they got used to the MTing in DpS stance meta and the new meta and they fear that the new meta is going to force them to tank in tank stance hurting their dps parses.
    Well, even if you're forced to tank stance 24/7 you can still maximize?

    Unless dps push hate to such a degree tanks need to aggro combo all the time and-

    Oh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur View Post
    I suspect a lot of them are complaining because they got used to the MTing in DpS stance meta and the new meta and they fear that the new meta is going to force them to tank in tank stance hurting their dps parses.
    BINGO!


    You won't get many agreeing with you, but I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    BINGO!


    You won't get many agreeing with you, but I do.
    coz the ones who are happy how it is not gona come here and bother complaining :P
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    Nel Synestra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evaddaragon View Post
    I stayed in tank stance, and even as I was doing Omega Normal yesterday, I didn't need to use a single Halone combo if I tanked in tank stance, unless I tank swapped on Exdeath to solidify hate. Our boost to enmity modifiers are that good, really.
    Yeah if you use tank stance you really only need that one initial enmity combo if even that, now when you step out of tank stance you will notice how DPS starts to creep up pretty fast specially SAM's and good BRD's. Does anyone know if they adjusted tank stance modifiers? it just feels stronger than before when it comes to enmity generation.
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