Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Supersun]

"Yoshi-P, do you think we messed up ever so slightly when nerfing Scholar?"

"Hmm, maybe you're right,...NERF FEY UNION AS WELL TO BE SAFE!"

*Lightning cracks in the background as Yoshi-P laughs maniacally*

[Euthymia]

As a recent entrant to the community and a Scholar main, I've felt these nerfs especially hard as of late.

Fun fact: The MSQ solo duty where you save Brayflox from the illuminati is near impossible because it uses the bomb-dropping mechanics from the Longstop hard mode, and scholar has no viable AoE attacks to deflect them at all!

So yes, I'm echoing the sentiments that this is too much. We don't need everything reverted, just a review of the Embrace scaling, Adloquium's MP cost brought down to a sane level (there is nothing wrong with individual healers having strengths anyway, why punish us thrice over for our base class's MP restoration?), and maybe, just maybe a retooled Miasma 2 to replace Miasma, possibly alongside number tweaks for Bio 2? There's a nice level 40 job quest slot open to fit it into and everything.

[Risvertasashi]

I would like to suggest a change to Excogitation:

After X seconds, Excogitation's potency increases to 1000. X could be 5 or 10 seconds.

This would reward setting up Excog in advance, instead of encouraging it to be used as a marginally more powerful lustrate on low health targets.

As an alternative, Excog could simply not become active until a few seconds have passed, but I still think the potency should be increased.

[Vilenya]

I don't know what I think about Excog at the moment. I definitely think it needs to be change but I'm not sure how. At the moment, I have started leaning towards not using it due to it's marginal increase over lustrate and unpredictability. My initial thought was maybe have it start at something around 500 potency and over the course of the 30s have it go up to something like 700 - 750. The user can then have the option to set it off whenever they like with the heal potency based on how long its been on the target.

[Risvertasashi]

I don't know what I think about Excog at the moment. I definitely think it needs to be change but I'm not sure how. At the moment, I have started leaning towards not using it due to it's marginal increase over lustrate and unpredictability. My initial thought was maybe have it start at something around 500 potency and over the course of the 30s have it go up to something like 700 - 750. The user can then have the option to set it off whenever they like with the heal potency based on how long its been on the target.

That could be another way to do it. But with the 60s cooldown and aetherflow stack cost, I think it should be more generous on potency myself.

[Ghishlain]

I got my SCH to 70 recently and got to dabble with it in EX Dungeon content. Here are my initial thoughts towards some changes to the SCH kit based on what I've played and the discussion with a few fellow healers:

(1) Summoning a fairy with a pre-charged amount of Fairy Gauge. This gives SCH a little bit of spike heal potential at the beginning of the fight and also encourage thoughtful use of fairy resummon during a boss fight to quickly recharge the gauge if necessary (and would also synergize with point 2 and 3 below)
(2) Allow the fairy gauge to accumulate with Aetherflow use even if the Fairy is not summoned. This allows it to synergize with Dissipation so SCHs don't need to hold back their stacks and wait for Fairy re-summon before using their stacks.
(3) Allow Dissipation to either or all of the below:
(3a) Reset the CD on all abilities that require Aetherflow stacks
(3b) Provide a 10s buff after dissipation expires that allows reduces the cast time and MP cost of Summon and Summon II to 0
(4) Excogition feels lackluster and should either get a potency boost or charge the Fairy Gauge more than other Aetherflow abilities (say 20-30)
(5) SCH needs a small potency boost, either on the Fairy or their base kit, but not both. Either Physick and Adlo being boosted to 425 and 330 respectively or Fairy Embrace to approximately 265 potency.
(6) Inspired by PvP but I'd like to see Aetherflow reduced to 45s (perhaps adjust the MP restored value to suit the reduced CD too)

As a random FYI, since Fey Union does count as an ability it allows the fairy to get around any Infirmity-style debuffs.

Also I heard a rumor that Excogition can't crit. Does anyone know if this is true or completely baseless? If not I might try to run some tests over the week and see.

[Vilenya]

That could be another way to do it. But with the 60s cooldown and aetherflow stack cost, I think it should be more generous on potency myself.

You might be right but I don't think you could go much higher without having the other healer classes take issue with it. It would essentially change it to stored emergency heal and allow you to pre-load the target with a heal. This would let you get back the used atherflow faster. It would also change the skill to a tactical use skill instead of a pure luck skill.

[Arcos]

I need a hug. Or a drink.

Look, S-E, I just spent the last four raids with ASTs who refuse to switch to Diurnal even though I'm on Scholar. That's how worthless we are. Yeah, a good Scholar and carry a party but that's not a compliment to the state of the job right now.

This isn't even marginally okay at this point and it feels incredibly frustrating that I can't even do the one thing the class is supposed to be good at.

[RyuDragnier]

I don't know what I think about Excog at the moment. I definitely think it needs to be change but I'm not sure how. At the moment, I have started leaning towards not using it due to it's marginal increase over lustrate and unpredictability. My initial thought was maybe have it start at something around 500 potency and over the course of the 30s have it go up to something like 700 - 750. The user can then have the option to set it off whenever they like with the heal potency based on how long its been on the target.

I'm not entirely sure if it works the way I think it does, but I noticed that if you Excog before a tank buster, you don't notice the heal, but the tank takes less damage, almost like an Adlo. Like it's subtracting the heal they would have gotten from the damage they're going to receive before the final damage comes in. I've actually saved a few tanks with it whereas otherwise they would have died from the attack under the same circumstances. If what I noticed is correct, its actually useful since it's basically an adlo without the cast.

[MercuryAcetylene]

Make faeire Gauge increase fairy potency the higher it gets, make it so that Dissipation does an aoe shield or just plain heal when used (the higher the faeire guage, the harder it hits giving incentive to actually use it). Fey Union becomes affected by the bonus of the increased fairy potency from the gauge. I don't know... sounds kinda fun to me. but I guess other classes would complain about that. god forbid someone actually have fun when playing a game.

EDIT: Ofc, using Dissapation would have to wipe the gauge clean... can't just have something that uber.