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  1. #261
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    Bonkleberry's Avatar
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    Justin Satanas
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 90
    1. Sacred Soil is rarely useful at all and hardly worth the stack over Lustrate or Energy drain
    I disagree. Sacred Soil is more than worth the stack if it procs a free Succor. If the Tank is doing a large pull or taking massive damage, Sacred Soil will prevent more damage than one Lustrate can heal.

    I've never read such drivel on a forum for a long time.
    I guess some people always feel the need to try and make themselves look smarter than others by talking down to them. The rest of your reply is worded as if I was asking you, personally, to evaluate/confirm my feedback and judge my experience with the job. I guarantee you that I had no clue who you even were or that you existed before writing this Scholar feedback post.
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    You cannot take anything for granted, change eventually swallows everything you may try to immortalize.

  2. #262
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    Riyshn's Avatar
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    I disagree. Sacred Soil is more than worth the stack if it procs a free Succor. If the Tank is doing a large pull or taking massive damage, Sacred Soil will prevent more damage than one Lustrate can heal.
    You can never rely on the free Succor cast, so that can't be factored into the relative value of Sacred Soil.

    As for Sacred Soil vs. Indomitability/Lustrate, I just tested and at ilvl314, my Lustrate heals for ~11000, and my Indom heals for ~7500 per target. Sacred Soil is 10% mitigation. In order for Sacred Soil to be worth the stack over either of those two, it has to either prevent a death from a single hit, or mitigate more than 110,000 (single target) or 75,000 (per target multi target) damage worth of hits over it's duration. Do you realize how few situations there are in this game that a boss has more than 110,000 ST / 75,000 AoE in unavoidable damage going out within 15 seconds?
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  3. #263
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonkleberry View Post
    I disagree. Sacred Soil is more than worth the stack if it procs a free Succor. If the Tank is doing a large pull or taking massive damage, Sacred Soil will prevent more damage than one Lustrate can heal.
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    It's not the case at all that I want to look down on you. You just give very poor reasons and it almost looks like a troll. Your last remark makes absolutely no sense and is such a poor argument for the gimping of DPS ... It may come as a shock to you as well. But posting on a discussion forum, people will evaluate your comments and discuss them. I don't need to ask anyone's permission. Now that this off topic is out of the way, someone has already dealt with your Succor remark. It's clear that Scholar needs a bit of love and I hope they do it sooner rather than later. There are plenty of quality posts out there.
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  4. #264
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    Emsii Heart
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Sacred Soil is NEVER worth using over lustrate or indom. Ever. Its a neat skill but it is not worth the aetherflow cost. A free succor is nice and all..but only 20% chance if I remember correctly? If I wanted to use succor I'd just use it, not waste an aetherflow charge for the chance to use it for free.
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  5. #265
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    Johaandr's Avatar
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    Bell Jee
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    Phantom
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I think SCH need a buff for their mitigation and make fairy more effectivenes in terms og healing again..

    I barely play sch and always been playing WHM thru hw.
    When i first leveled sch 61-65 i thought it was bit friendly till i hit level 68 where i kind of struggled keeping tank alive with healing and barely had i room for dps. Not that dps is important but i am able to dps ten times more with whm in my experience. Also since i struggled keeping tanks alive i dont like being lock behind aetherflow and spam physick and adlo which costs 1/10 out of my MP.
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    Last edited by Johaandr; 07-04-2017 at 07:36 AM.

  6. #266
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    Vilenya Gozutenno
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 70
    There was a reason why sacred soil was barely used in the past beyond the dps of shadow flare. In most multiple mob packs where slow worked, shadow flare offered more mitigation than scared soil would. On single mob or boss fights lustrate and indom would heal for more damage then scared soil would ever mitigate. It just wasn't worth the cost of an atherflow to use it in most situations. The only point where it might of been useful was during a phase change where the whole raid was being damaged and you wanted to use both scared soil and indom. You also cant count on the 20% chance to get a free succor nor is guaranteed you will need that free succor when it comes up. This unreliability and the fact that the effect wasn't buffed makes this an inferior ability, maybe just slight better than dissipation right now.
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  7. #267
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    Lyli Hanabira
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    Patch notes up, not a single scholar buff... Bad job, SE.
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  8. #268
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    Emitans's Avatar
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    Faorin Shadowclaw
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkios View Post
    Patch notes up, not a single scholar buff... Bad job, SE.
    And they "fixed" Fey Union. Now its even more useless.
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  9. #269
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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lurkios View Post
    Patch notes up, not a single scholar buff... Bad job, SE.
    According to YoshiP job rebalancing is planned to start with 4.05 when Omega savage hits. Right now all they're doing is bug fixes and enmity adjustments.

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...80#post4263080
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  10. #270
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    Odd2oul's Avatar
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    Kira Lancaster
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    Ultros
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    Scholar Lv 60
    Do they not at least consider fey union going down when the fairy isn't tethered a "bug" or is that just "working as intended" 8/
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