BLM needs some love and RDM needs a nerf

[Galvuu]

BLM is pulling more DPS than RDM according to FFlogs, so actually we should nerf BLM and their 32k Fouls.

It's not, and damage is all we have. Okay, and we're slightly better at Mana Shifting.
That's it. Having the raise and the cute is actually so clutch sometimes, on RDM. You can literally save a run.
On BLM I just look as it falls apart and accept my fate.

But that's not even my issue. It's how fluid and easy RDM feels to me. I can just run around for days. On BLM it's all so tense- I need to predict the next 30s of every fight and make contingency plans so I can keep dpsing. I kinda like that feeling- the knife's edge, a bad aoe pattern and I'm screwed, and the feeling when you "outsmart" the mechanic. I just wish I had a better reward. And didn't know the group is better served if I go RDM x)

It's not like the fact we have a stronger single hit is that important anyway. Fire IV is sooo slow with the new speed scaling :/

[Celef]

Please don't nerf the RDM, for the first time (in forever ? ) I feel like I can DPS xD

[Furious]

THIS! This thread... lots'a and I mean, lots'a QQ'ing... not sure what game you guys are playing but SMN is in a GREAT place as dps...lovin' it... now just pulled out my BLM to get it level'd up and lovin' the changes so far... both jobs now play differently than before; SMN changes/revisions took some getting use to but WOW... RDM is "nice" but not even close to the SUMMONER! too much QQ'ing.. here.

Even if all 3 do identical damage, RDM is massively superior thanks to every other mechanic. Whether or not you like how they play doesn't change the fact that RDM has instant cures and raise on every second cast available, which impacts mobility, survivability, and utility.

Taking a look at FFLogs without balance, on Lakshmi it seems RDM,SAM,BLM are pretty close in terms of damage which is kinda.....wrong? Then looking at Susano SAM gaps grows quite a bit but then looking at RDM and BLM the RDM is still ahead but slightly. It sucks to have no utility and get beating by the guy with bonkers utility even tho its a small lead in dps.

Granted we dont know how Omega fights will be so going off current content and trying to base that on what needs to be nerfed or buffed would be silly.

Because we are capable of logical extrapolation, and there is never going to be a scenario where low mobility or low utility are boons in their own rights.

People really need to stop with the nerf talk. How about we wait until savage or give it longer then a month to complain. The 2 EX Primals are very easy, but movement heavy so yeah BLMs are gonna be hurt dps wise.

Because waiting to talk about what we can already logically ascertain is stupid.

I hate saying this argument, but in this case it is true. The group doesn't pay my sub, so if I am playing something I don't enjoy. I would rather stop playing the game. My enjoyment of the game is in no way connected to what the group wants because I am not that mentally weak. If a group wants me to play something different, I will just tell them to kiss my metal shiny ass and leave them where they are.

Nobody can stop you. But you know, and they know, that you are a burden that you chose to inflict on them.

[MagiusNecros]

RDM does a lot of damage and can ST offheal or instaraise. Embolden for physical based parties while buffing it's own damage. All with little effort or strain. It's a do everything job and it does it all well. Only thing BLM has over it is AoE sustain which RDM doesn't have. Otherwise RDM excels.

All BLM will bring is damage and that's if the BLM knows the fight and knows where to be. With RDM you could go in blind and do absolutely fine.

Reds bring a lot of value over BLM or SMN I would think.

I shall become a burden that I inflict upon them then, and I shall get much enjoyment out of it because causing pain to pretentious assholes like that who think they have the power to control is always worth the time and energy. Especially if they suffer for it.

Lovely. A pretentious asshole being a pretentious asshole to other pretentious assholes. We really have come full circle. More power to ya.

[Ferrasper]

Nobody can stop you. But you know, and they know, that you are a burden that you chose to inflict on them.

I shall become a burden that I inflict upon them then, and I shall get much enjoyment out of it because causing pain to pretentious assholes like that who think they have the power to control is always worth the time and energy. Especially if they suffer for it.

[Furious]

I shall become a burden that I inflict upon them then, and I shall get much enjoyment out of it because causing pain to pretentious assholes like that who think they have the power to control is always worth the time and energy. Especially if they suffer for it.

I rest my case?

[Ferrasper]

I rest my case?

Just saying, you think you won by calling it a burden when in reality you didn't because the one who gets the pleasure from it always wins in the end. That is all.

[Furious]

Just saying, you think you won by calling it a burden when in reality you didn't because the one who gets the pleasure from it always wins in the end. That is all.

The one who gains pleasure from causing avoidable pain to others wins only in their own mind. Particularly if they win not only despite causing that pain, but because of it.

For everyone else, it's just that guy who everyone casts glances at each other about and gives a small eyeroll before moving on.

[Ferrasper]

The one who gains pleasure from causing avoidable pain to others wins only in their own mind. Particularly if they win not only despite causing that pain, but because of it.

For everyone else, it's just that guy who everyone casts glances at each other about and gives a small eyeroll before moving on.

Hence pretentious assholes who can't understand people enjoy playing different things. Also, not everyone is that way. Most people I know don't care what you bring as long as you kill the things.

[Furious]

Hence pretentious assholes who can't understand people enjoy playing different things. Also, not everyone is that way. Most people I know don't care what you bring as long as you kill the things.

Like I said, nobody can stop you.

But they know. And now you know they know.

You should go and look up Donald from the Dark Legacy comics; the resemblance is somewhat striking.