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  1. #1
    Player
    Xiozen's Avatar
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    Xio Zen
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    Zalera
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    Even if all 3 do identical damage, RDM is massively superior thanks to every other mechanic. Whether or not you like how they play doesn't change the fact that RDM has instant cures and raise on every second cast available, which impacts mobility, survivability, and utility..
    Interesting observation by mentioning RDM seems to have superior mobility, survivability and utility compared to BLM and SMN, which makes it, according to what I am reading from your post, the obvious caster choice amongst the others named...

    As mentioned previously, all three DPS caster jobs play differently... RDM is mobile, BLM not as much, SMN is also mobile.... survivability... RDM does have dualcast capability to be applied to it's Vercure spell (results speak for themselves), BLM while not possessing any native cures, does have a utility to prevent damage (regardless of its effectiveness) it does exist... and SMN has pets (titan---pre-4.0 was effective, not as much now) and utility... this depends on whether or not utility from how your discussing it is meant to impact the party or the individual... and we can discuss all day each ranged DPS caster's utility... doesn't again, change my point... RDM is NOT superior to the other jobs in my opinion, it only offers a different play style.

    Anyone looking for what RDM has to offer and finds it enjoyable and I say go for it; same to be said for BLM and SMN...for I have witnessed extremely effective BLMs and SMNs who are outstanding because they are able to play the job "effectively"--however the same can be said for RDM... also leaning into this learning curve for the jobs are their complexity...as its fairly obvious that when compared to one another, RDM is not as complex as both BLM and SMN in their game play for various reasons.
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    Last edited by Xiozen; 07-07-2017 at 12:32 AM. Reason: too long

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    Alta Kelma
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    I play BLM main job since 2.0 and i must say... im kinda tired of it when i see how RDM faceroll every single mechanics while BLM is punished on a constant basis.

    Lets face it, BLM has no group utility while RDM can buff, heal, raise and deal more DPS.

    i dont get it anymore, there is no reward trying to master a job like BLM, its harder to play for no reward at the end.

    The problem with RNG server ticks for MP regen is also a killer when we are supposed to cast 6 FireIV.
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    Compagnie libre Storm, serveur Ragnarok
    http://www.stormffxiv.com

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    Miru West
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    Behemoth
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    Monk Lv 70
    Taking a look at FFLogs without balance, on Lakshmi it seems RDM,SAM,BLM are pretty close in terms of damage which is kinda.....wrong? Then looking at Susano SAM gaps grows quite a bit but then looking at RDM and BLM the RDM is still ahead but slightly. It sucks to have no utility and get beating by the guy with bonkers utility even tho its a small lead in dps.

    Granted we dont know how Omega fights will be so going off current content and trying to base that on what needs to be nerfed or buffed would be silly.
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 100
    BLM is pulling more DPS than RDM according to FFlogs, so actually we should nerf BLM and their 32k Fouls.
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    Alkel's Avatar
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    Alta Kelma
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    BLM is pulling more DPS than RDM according to FFlogs, so actually we should nerf BLM and their 32k Fouls.
    No its not:

    https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/15/#boss=1036
    https://www.fflogs.com/statistics/15/#boss=1037
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    Compagnie libre Storm, serveur Ragnarok
    http://www.stormffxiv.com

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    Galveira Vorfeed
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    Ragnarok
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    BLM is pulling more DPS than RDM according to FFlogs, so actually we should nerf BLM and their 32k Fouls.
    It's not, and damage is all we have. Okay, and we're slightly better at Mana Shifting.
    That's it. Having the raise and the cute is actually so clutch sometimes, on RDM. You can literally save a run.
    On BLM I just look as it falls apart and accept my fate.

    But that's not even my issue. It's how fluid and easy RDM feels to me. I can just run around for days. On BLM it's all so tense- I need to predict the next 30s of every fight and make contingency plans so I can keep dpsing. I kinda like that feeling- the knife's edge, a bad aoe pattern and I'm screwed, and the feeling when you "outsmart" the mechanic. I just wish I had a better reward. And didn't know the group is better served if I go RDM x)

    It's not like the fact we have a stronger single hit is that important anyway. Fire IV is sooo slow with the new speed scaling :/
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    Sly Warren
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    People really need to stop with the nerf talk. How about we wait until savage or give it longer then a month to complain. The 2 EX Primals are very easy, but movement heavy so yeah BLMs are gonna be hurt dps wise.
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    Aranie Crowley
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 81
    Please don't nerf the RDM, for the first time (in forever ? ) I feel like I can DPS xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    RDM does a lot of damage and can ST offheal or instaraise. Embolden for physical based parties while buffing it's own damage. All with little effort or strain. It's a do everything job and it does it all well. Only thing BLM has over it is AoE sustain which RDM doesn't have. Otherwise RDM excels.

    All BLM will bring is damage and that's if the BLM knows the fight and knows where to be. With RDM you could go in blind and do absolutely fine.

    Reds bring a lot of value over BLM or SMN I would think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrasper View Post
    I shall become a burden that I inflict upon them then, and I shall get much enjoyment out of it because causing pain to pretentious assholes like that who think they have the power to control is always worth the time and energy. Especially if they suffer for it.
    Lovely. A pretentious asshole being a pretentious asshole to other pretentious assholes. We really have come full circle. More power to ya.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 07-04-2017 at 12:48 AM.

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    Sly Warren
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    You talk as if embolden has no CD and its something that always up and it has diminishing effects. In what world? a world where the rdm is actually good and knows how to play their class. RDM obviously has a higher skill floor then BLM, so thats why i asked my question, you want them to raise the ceiling on blm so high as if even the worst of blms will be able to keep up with a RDM regardless of whats going on. yes a good blm should beat a good rdm always and if thats not the case im ok with the buff..
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