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    Kitfox's Avatar
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Heimdalgc View Post
    Almost 1,000 dps difference between the best bard and best machinist, and 1400 between SAM and MCH.
    At 90th percentile, aka the best 10% of people, the average difference between MCH and BRD is roughly 60 dps. Source: Susano Lakshmi

    "Best" parses aren't good for comparison because they're literally outliers on the scale. The sample size of Machinist parses is also very low compared to other jobs for the time being.
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    Kenrir Amnis
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    At 90th percentile, aka the best 10% of people, the average difference between MCH and BRD is roughly 60 dps. Source: Susano Lakshmi

    "Best" parses aren't good for comparison because they're literally outliers on the scale. The sample size of Machinist parses is also very low compared to other jobs for the time being.
    Best parses are usually inflated by (majority of the time) everyone feeding that individual buffs. Fflogs can be a gross inflation of what the actual dps of players are and only pushes a job to it's absolute peak.

    Vote going on with Fflogs to discount balance. You'll see that people are somewhere in the 90+% for balance uptime.
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    Rigel Regulus
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    Tonberry
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    The sample size of Machinist parses is also very low compared to other jobs for the time being.
    Gee I wonder why that is.

    Quote Originally Posted by SugarBunz View Post
    I have seen a few machinists hitting over 3k on susie ex ... I don't think that's too shabby for dps.
    Unless I die I usually can hit in the 3.2-3.3 range on susan. This is without dropping a single CD, wasting a single shot, mismanaging my heat, or making a single mistake. So if I play at 100% proficiency I can just barely edge out over people who haven't even figured out how to optimize their rotation. Never you mind what happens to the charts when I play with members of my FC.
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    Last edited by Elnidfse; 07-01-2017 at 08:52 PM.

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    Vayne Kaonis
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitfox View Post
    At 90th percentile, aka the best 10% of people, the average difference between MCH and BRD is roughly 60 dps. Source: Susano Lakshmi
    Isn't that kind of the problem though? MCH brings less utility, so you'd expect them to be able to do more damage. If BRD can essentially do the same damage with a much larger repertoire of utility, then why bring a MCH?
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    Isn't that kind of the problem though? MCH brings less utility, so you'd expect them to be able to do more damage.
    Sure, MCH could use some buffs. But so could BLM, DRG and SMN.
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