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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Because the servers aren't broken, they are just at max capacity for logging in? This is normal for most expansions in any popular online games. Once people complete SB, max out most of their mains and such things will go back to normal...
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 06-29-2017 at 12:38 AM. Reason: addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Because the servers aren't broken, they are just at max capacity for logging in? This is normal for most expansions in any popular online games. Once people complete SB, max out most of their mains and such things will go back to normal...
    Just because everyone else does something doesn't mean it is okay.

    I have the privilege of working with server scaling technology and can confidently say whatever S.E. is doing to alleviate server congestion is likely due to both poorly written backend code that does not allow scaling on the fly, and are refusing to transfer resources to increase the stability of their service.

    I understand that everyone thinks "hey this is normal" due to both ignorance and repeated experiences with MMORPGs (I was part of that crowd before too). But really, the only reason this is happening is because many are willing to pay for them for a ***ty launch.

    I, however, am not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    But really, the only reason this is happening is because many are willing to pay for them for a ***ty launch.

    I, however, am not.
    How long are you going to punish yourself? Because SE doesn't care about your sub as much as you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    How long are you going to punish yourself? Because SE doesn't care about your sub as much as you do.
    I don't have a sub lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    I don't have a sub lol
    Then why are you here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    I don't have a sub lol
    That's why I'm asking why you're punishing yourself now. You care enough about the game like the rest of us to post in the forums, but we get to play.
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    honestly the instability is embarrassing Ive seen some sloppy launches but this is pretty high up there Ive spent the last 25 minutes getting 90ked into more 90ks into an error 2002, SE I know the buisness motto is cut corners and over price to maximize profits but come on when your product is getting close to unusable ... you lose money, especially from gamers... re-enforce the servers purchase more server space while putting the cap on it to stabilize it and then you can take it back down to normal after the hype is over.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    Just because everyone else does something doesn't mean it is okay.

    I understand that everyone thinks "hey this is normal" due to both ignorance and repeated experiences with MMORPGs (I was part of that crowd before too). But really, the only reason this is happening is because many are willing to pay for them for a ***ty launch.

    I, however, am not.
    While I also work with servers and code, every company is different and programs work in different scales. IT"S A NEW RELEASE and servers are working to a max capacity issue. Everyone is entitled to their perspective and respect yours, however from a business perspective it would be a poor choice to invest for a temporary fix that will later become an unneeded expense. Same thing when HW came out, how long did we have this same issue for? Personally the most I've spent waiting on a queue is an hour, rarely have any connection problems and even play FFXI while waiting for queue. If people are so concern, and know this happens why not wait a while, say a month before playing the game? Reason, people are impatient and think their special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    Then why are you here?
    To let people throwing around fallacies and bull**** that they're stupid or ignorant while I'm waiting for this god damn ****box to finish building something.

    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    While I also work with servers and code, every company is different and programs work in different scales. IT"S A NEW RELEASE and servers are working to a max capacity issue. Everyone is entitled to their perspective and respect yours, however from a business perspective it would be a poor choice to invest for a temporary fix that will later become an unneeded expense. Same thing when HW came out, how long did we have this same issue for? Personally the most I've spent waiting on a queue is an hour, rarely have any connection problems and even play FFXI while waiting for queue. If people are so concern, and know this happens why not wait a while, say a month before playing the game? Reason, people are impatient and think their special.
    If you work with servers and code, you would know about the existence of many server scaling technologies.

    If the backend was engineered to take the above into account, it would literally be a "do it right once, pays back dividends" approach. This would not be a "temporary" fix as I am not referring to adding servers and leaving them there post rush...and you would also know what I am referring to.

    And regarding the "impatient special" comment...if you're happy with paying for a service, like an ISP, that fails to forecast and rectify really obvious moments when their QoS would not be met, good for you. I'll keep my money and buy beer or something instead.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    To let people know they're stupid or ignorant while I'm waiting for this god damn ****box to finish building something.
    So in some other words, you have no subscription ( maybe banned ) and just want to waste your precious time trolling because you have nothing better to do. Don't you have some server to work on or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lynart View Post
    If you work with servers and code, you would know about the existence of many server scaling technologies.

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    The difference between your perspective and mine is that of a leader and a follower. WE don't work for them and currently don't know what is happening on their end to give an accurate assessment of the situation FROM THE BACK END. If you consider your answer to be correct on all aspects great you are entitled to it. I have no right answer either yet I have always been satisfied with their company and being I work in a similar field I step back, take a moment, and think of the possibilities. I can cut them some slack. Now if this were to continue over a 60 day time frame then perhaps I would take your side more. Yet seriously, there has been improvement, at least from my end, compared to early access. There for Instead of being negative about a situation, why not use your knowledge for something proactive. For example, HEY SE Here is suggestion... While I'm sure a beer will satisfy your needs why not save on your electricity bill as well. Turn off your device and go tell your story to the bartender. /em "Plays the worlds smallest violin."
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 06-29-2017 at 01:51 AM. Reason: addition