Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

[Rita1989]

You have absolutely no proof for that claim. There's every chance that this problem is going to be back again, and possibly worse than it ever was due to new people coming to the game.

If they keep the server closed to creation and transfers it can only go down and it will go down as inevitably people stop playing and some will transfer to play with friends who cannot join the server.

Once the expansion rush ends the queue won't be an issue like it is the rest of the time, people have this impression Balmung always has a long queue but it simply doesn't at most it can take 1-3 minutes if it's a patch launch day or something.

[Mikhaill]

Sure it is. Saturday I got pissed off from the 3K login queue, which was literally not moving, went on discord to get myself removed from my free company and transferred.
Now I'm making new friends, which isn't that difficult if you put yourself out there.

Yet ppl have made long time connections.
you obviously didn't care too much about the fc and all. it's easier when you have no ties to the place.

[Ayer2015]

Yet ppl have made long time connections.
you obviously didn't care too much about the fc and all. it's easier when you have no ties to the place.

Its like any other aspect of life; sometimes you just move on. You always have the memories, and the opportunity to make new ones elsewhere. I've been on 4 servers since ff14 launched, and have met great people on each of them.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Sure it is. Saturday I got pissed off from the 3K login queue, which was literally not moving, went on discord to get myself removed from my free company and transferred.
Now I'm making new friends, which isn't that difficult if you put yourself out there.

Good for you! I mean that sincerely too. I, on the other hand, have friends and acquaintances here with no intentions of leaving. Some are apart of massive FCs like The Ward, others prefer high pop servers and a few I have known outside FFXIV for years. While I'm always open to making new friends, I don't want to leave behind all the ones I have because they're happy on Balmung. Admittedly, I also prefer high pop servers. Maybe if Mateus stabilizes a little, I'll consider it more but at the moment, I don't want to risk going to a server whose roleplay attempts may be for naught and wind up stuck there for three months.

[Derio]

Lol hope a dps doesn't try to queue for a dungeon in that timeframe.

But on a serious note, all worlds shouldn't suffer just because Balmung is having problems

[Scenic]

This makes me wonder how many people are actually afk because there would have to be hundreds to thousands for this to even make sense. Otherwise you are just going to have massive congestion after the 10 minutes with no guarantee that the waiting players are even going to get in.

[JunseiKei]

I brought this up in another thread:

As such, we’ll be instituting a temporary measure that will log all characters out simultaneously across all Worlds on a data center once a day.

Reading comprehension dictates that "a" is akin to "one," therefore you can read it to say "all worlds on one data center." It's no mystery which server is actually having the issue. It's Balmung. The data center it is located on is Aether. Aether will most likely be the only data center, and its worlds, experiencing this lovely addition:

Adamantoise
Balmung
Cactuar
Coeurl
Faerie
Gilgamesh
Goblin
Jenova
Mateus <-- I really feel for these guys
Midgardsormr
Sargatanas
Siren
Zalera

Really, at this point, I'm all for splintering Balmung. I'm pretty sure the transfer incentives are there so SE doesn't start enforcing a hardcap on the server, but with these issues, this should be done. It'll happen again come 5.0. Even if they never remove the ability to transfer to, or create a new character on Balmung, those returning to the game will cause this to repeat. Until players are forcibly removed from this overpopulated server, because not enough are taking the incentives, the issue will happen again. That's not doomsaying, that is just a fact.

[MistakeNot]

Square Enix needs to bite the bullet and create a new server for roleplayers. They created this mess by allowing people to pay their way into high pop servers. Now said players understandably don't want to leave behind their connections nor risk going to baby servers that may wither in a couple months. The incentives offered simply aren't enough. I couldn't care less about being reimbursed for my house. I want to have one. While the queues are annoying, I'd rather put up with them than chance not getting a house again. Gilgamesh will inevitably work itself out thanks to PF. Balmung won't because it caters to the idea of having one large community.

Even if all the roleplayers moved out of Balmung it would STILL be overpopulated. Roleplayers are a minority of the population there. A fairly large minority, but still a minority.

Besides Balmung isn't the only server suffering from overly long queues.

[Hezkezl]

Once the expansion rush ends the queue won't be an issue like it is the rest of the time, people have this impression Balmung always has a long queue but it simply doesn't at most it can take 1-3 minutes if it's a patch launch day or something.

In my opinion.... the developers banking on people getting bored with the game and leaving, and designing their infrastructure around that "low population" period, is absolutely pathetic. What happens during 5.0 or 6.0 when the 'non expansion rush/normal' population levels might be higher than what they are now? We could theoretically be permanently stuck with this once-per-day timeout thing, and then they'll have to go and add another band-aid onto the pile.

[Spiroglyph]

Was kind of worried when I first read this about possibly getting booted from inside an instance, but given the 1 hour advance notice I'd say I'm actually quite okay with this measure people circumventing auto logout and congesting server needs to be fixed anyway...