[SPOILERS] Stormblood Ending

[EdwinLi]

that cheesy intro had me rolling.


I wonder how long it will take someone to find gosetsu.

I hope the black wolf is alive. i want to believe.

I am more expecting Gosetsu sailing on to shore while our character is busy talking near a beach location and our character or our ally suddenly notice Gosetsu and Yotsuyu on a small hand made ship.

Also, I am interested how Yutsuyu may develop and open more of Hien's view on Doma and what actually lead to Doma's fall in the first place which, while Yutsuyu did contribute, the old Doma government was not all "good" as Hien was raised to believe and he only grew up hearing about the good parts of Doma but none of the bad parts until he met Yutsuyu and heard her words about how her life in Doma was like and that no one attempted to help her as she suffered under the old Doma government.

If anything the true fault of Doma's fall to garlean control was the corruption within the government as many cruel and corrupt people were in control of Doma.

[Clethoria]

I wish I could have been Zenos' friend longer...

[Slatersev]

Forget about the Garleans and Ascians, we need an MSQ patch focused only on these two's courtship and wedding or the whole game is a waste TBH

[EdwinLi]

Forget about the Garleans and Ascians, we need an MSQ patch focused only on these two's courtship and wedding or the whole game is a waste TBH

I just can't help but laugh at these two interactions with each other. The MSQ basically made is very obvious they were meant for each other consider how he constantly acts to her.

There is even a moment if you speak to him before leaving his throne room for the last time during MSQ he is very sad he has yet to find that one person he wants to be with and marry.

[Alleo]

Yotsuyu surviving doesn't bother me in the slightest. Yes, she did terrible things - but she did them due to being treated terribly by the Doman people who were far from innocent themselves. It's a sharp contrast to Hien's self righteous belief that liberating Doma is completely justified and his people are perfect and flawless. He even seemed unnerved by her revelation. She's essentially a survivor of abuse, thus serves the role of a tragic antagonist very well.

She had her family that sold her to someone bad in the empire which abused her. Thats all (at least how far I have seen it, arrived back in Limsa). She hates a whole country because she was mistreated by a couple/handful of people. And as revenge she killed and tortured countless of people that did nothing to her. How is this the fault of the Doman people? This is over 20 years past and yet she still kills people just because they are born in this country. If she has any kind of redemption then I will just shake my head. If they had shown that the Garlear have her family and she does this all to protect them..it would still mean that she is a murderer but at least the reason would be better. Or if we found out that the whole village tortured her but nothing like that was shown.

There is a difference in killing someone in battle or going around and kill innocent harmless people. (She wanted to shot two old people just because they would eat resources..) I never saw any of the scion or the WoL do something like that.

I am not really sure how his belief of liberating Doma is not justified and right? This country was not part of Garlemald, it was conquered by them. Garlemald has no rights to it. Also we can see that they did not mean well for the Doman people. They were taken in and forced to battle for the empire, work hard even till death, had barely anything to live on and nobody to protect them. At the same time even though most of them kept their heads down and did nothing they still got tortured and killed randomly. As soon as they saw that it was not impossible and that their rightful heir was still alive they stood up and fought for their freedom.

I cant just see how someone like Yotsuyu should get any kind of redemption just because she had a bad past. For me this does not make it a better story, it makes it more into a "do what you want as long as you have a sob story you will get sympathy". The past can shape us but its our choice what we do with it.

And you can be sure if we ever have cutscene with a NPC friend where they randomly kill innocent harmless Garlearn people just because they are born in this state..then I will not find this good and this person should be punished for it. Because there will be always a difference between killing soldiers in battle or innocent civilians.


In general as someone from Germany, Garlemald makes me feels uncomfortable. Especially with their oppression and believe that they are the better race. The experiments on people and using them for testing their poison. Having places where people from conquered lands might have to work even till death and much more. Thus I cant sympathize with them. (And I am talking about the leaders and people that are deciding something like that. I am quite sure that a lot of the civilians are fine, some might not even know what happens in the world. But this does not make the empire good.)

[EdwinLi]

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It is a more psychological reason as the cause of her being this mentally unstable along with killing and abusing Doman originates from how she grew up.

She has known nothing but abuse her entire life with no one willing to show her that there are good people in Doma. This in resulted in her mentally believing all Domans were responsible for her suffering since her birth and the abuse she went through at the hands of her parents then sold off by her Brother to pay off a debt then her Doman' Noble husband and beaten and abused some more, which she did say she went out and begged people to help her but no one did and told her to just deal with it because the Husband was a Doman Noble, then eventually sold off to the "pleasure House" where she would be used for abuse and sexual pleasure until the Garleans found her there and offer he to be a Spy lead to her current mental state.

In the very back of her mind the constant abuse most likely made her question why no one will help her and why do they enjoy watching her suffer. This then resulted in her finding that pleasure with abusing Domans as psychologically due to seeing people done nothing but finding pleasure with beating and abusing her as it basically became the only thing she has known her entire life thus she basically grew up become the same person that the people who beat and abused her.

It is like how a person grows up to be a drunk abusive parent because their own parent or parents were drunk and abusive to them as they grow up since no one there to help them out of that life nor save them from their own parent's abuse.

Growing up being nothing but abused your entire life can have very serious psychological effects on a person's mind and way of thinking. it is easy to say "I won't grow up to be like that even if I have a abusive family" but that is only easy to say because the person never grew up with a abusive family thus never known the suffering of what it is like being treated like trash by everyone you known with no one willing to lend a helping hand nor show compassion.

If anything Gosetsu showing compassion to her, being the first person in her entire life to show compassion, is most liekly going to make Yotsuyu's head spin as mentally she has been engraved by the idea of Domans only enjoy seeing her suffer. We actually see signs of this in Yotsuyu when she was cornered in Doma Castle when she speaks about not wanting to be taken so easily and knowing their "tricks"

[Fenral]

Yotsuyu surviving doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Thank you. Gosetsu was a given if you consider what Soroban said about how the castle collapsed, but seeing Yotsuyu alive as well made the ending for me, because sympathetic villain characters usually have a pretty bleak life expectancy. I suspect she and Fordola will be foils in the patches to come.

In general, the number of major characters to survive the 4.0 MSQ pleases me, if only because earlier arcs made such a mess of death and "final farewells" that the prospect of seeing characters grow beyond the original confines of their "role" is something new and exciting for FFXIV.

She had her family that sold her to someone bad in the empire which abused her. Thats all (at least how far I have seen it, arrived back in Limsa).

Understate, much? She was adopted, sold off by the family that adopted her so they could advance themselves, abused by the man she was sold to, sold off again to a whorehouse to pay off his debts... Kindness and compassion are things you learn from the people who care about you. So what do you learn when nobody cares?

Seriously, though. Are we just supposed to kill everyone who's ever done anything bad in their lives? I know I'd be dead. It's lost in the white-noise of 2.0 flavor-text, but the Scions have a thing for holding mass executions of Tempered. Is that okay, then, as long as the good guys decide it's right?

[Dualblade]

Seriously, though. Are we just supposed to kill everyone who's ever done anything bad in their lives? I know I'd be dead. It's lost in the white-noise of 2.0 flavor-text, but the Scions have a thing for holding mass executions of Tempered. Is that okay, then, as long as the good guys decide it's right?

Only because without a cure in sight the person is essentially already dead. It also isn't just the Scions but the City-States as well. Personally I don't think its right, yet at the same time again without any sort of cure the Tempered are SoL no matter what...though given we have been shown to be able to protect groups of people from being turned into Lakshmi's dreamers I wonder if SE is starting to work towards the WoL coming up with a cure.

On Yotsuya I'm okay with her being alive too, its rather obvious where her arc is going and I will be surprised if she isn't dead by the end of the 4.x patches but she certainly will have a change of heart. Gosetsu will see to that simply by being himself to her.

Gonna miss Grynewaht though. He was a nice villianous comediac touch to the story.

[Gaiussenpai]

I wish I could have been Zenos' friend longer...

Should have accepted the bromance offer but at least I made my mans man feel alive in the end.

;_;


Seriously Yoshi stop trying to make me hate the Garleans since it isn't working.

[Jonnycbad]

I don't think Elidbus's face is Zenos. The emperor doesn't care that much about his son. I don't thinking Gaius' either. He was just a General, one of 14. That wouldn't make him say "how dare you". It's probably the face of someone we have t been exposed to