Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

[VanilleFang]

WHM was overshadowed because of Astro's Balance and because content in 3.4 content didn't require high healing.
My point was that WHM isn't "weak" in term of healing and kept being strong. BUT, having a healer buffer was better than one with healing only.
That's all.

I never said WHM had weaker heals. I was saying it was the weakest healer because it had no utility.

[Hysterior]

I can't speak with that guy, but frankly, I'm so disgusted by the nerfs SCH got, and the buffs AST got (I swear it feels like borderline favortism to me the more I look at them) that I refuse to play AST right now. I was actually going to give a shot too,but not anymore.

I understand this even less haha. I've been a SCH from 2.0 as it was fun, rewarding to play and needed in my group.
Now it feels nerfed so I play AST in the meantime. What matters is that you help your group and have fun no?
Pretty sure they'll tweak the job before raid time due to player feedback.
So no need to resign. Just play another job in the meantime and enjoy the content.

[Cluebilly]

I understand this even less haha. I've been a SCH from 2.0 as it was fun, rewarding to play and needed in my group.
Now it feels nerfed so I play AST in the meantime. What matters is that you help your group and have fun no?
Pretty sure they'll tweak the job before raid time due to player feedback.
So no need to resign. Just play another job in the meantime and enjoy the content.

And I've been a SCH since 2.0 as well. It's probably my favorite job in the entire game. But am I supposed to just dump it and move to AST? I'm not resigning so to speak, I just want my favorite job to not be bad.

[Riyshn]

I understand this even less haha. I've been a SCH from 2.0 as it was fun, rewarding to play and needed in my group.
Now it feels nerfed so I play AST in the meantime. What matters is that you help your group and have fun no?
Pretty sure they'll tweak the job before raid time due to player feedback.
So no need to resign. Just play another job in the meantime and enjoy the content.

I think it's a fundamental difference in playstyle, here. It sounds like you're playing the job because it's strong. I play SCH because I enjoy SCH, and SE seems to be working to destroy that.

[Pyitoechito]

Perhaps Silent Dusk could be changed into a targeted magic attack debuff instead of a resistable silence. Like an offensive version of Eos' Fey Covenent with a shorter cooldown/duration.

[Bigcat9715]

Sch is in need of buffs in the healing department badly. The overall heals from the job is extremely weak, and most of the time I find myself in a situation where I'm having a hard time keeping up heals where a Whm/Ast can get though without any issue. On top of the weak heals it seems like I run out of Mp slot quicker and the nerf to Aetherflow might be the cause of that. Also (I haven't tested it yet, so take it as a grain of salt, but ) the amount of Mp regen you get from Aetherflow gets consumed by a single use of adlo. I understand that you guys were trying to balance the healers, but the Sch nerf might have went a little to far and the job is bad in need of some healing buffs.

[Vijaya]

The number of level 60 SCH's posting in this thread speaks for itself. At least get to 70 and try it out geared before crying, WHM is supposed to be babby's first healer job.

I know I'm not alone on this, but SCH feels strong. Most boss mechanics now line up on 30 to 60 second timers, which means you should always have your Indomitable & Rouse/Whisper up for AoE, and Adlo/Excog up for tank busters. The only way I could see MP issues being a thing is if you spammed Adlo/Succor constantly and didn't use Lucid Dreaming off cd, like you had no idea what you're doing.

Keep complaining though guys, an unnecessary buff is fine by me. imo. the only thing they need to fix is how clunky Aetherpact is.

[curather]

I have tried it out and scholar isn't as good as you make it out to be.

Scholar is not strong

If you think it is, why don't you go Scholar/Scholar for all the Extremes currently?

[zeopower6]

The number of level 60 SCH's posting in this thread speaks for itself. At least get to 70 and try it out geared before crying, WHM is supposed to be babby's first healer job.

I know I'm not alone on this, but SCH feels strong. Most boss mechanics now line up on 30 to 60 second timers, which means you should always have your Indomitable & Rouse/Whisper up for AoE, and Adlo/Excog up for tank busters. The only way I could see MP issues being a thing is if you spammed Adlo/Succor constantly and didn't use Lucid Dreaming off cd, like you had no idea what you're doing.

Keep complaining though guys, an unnecessary buff is fine by me. imo. the only thing they need to fix is how clunky Aetherpact is.

Uh.. just an FYI, but not everyone has changed their info on this. I'm a 70 SCH since EA ended but it hasn't updated. The same likely goes for others that seem to be '60' when they are 70.

[Vijaya]

I have tried it out and scholar isn't as good as you make it out to be.

Scholar is not strong

If you think it is, why don't you go Scholar/Scholar for all the Extremes currently?

Already done that. I've finished both of the Extremes with Scholar/Scholar for multiple runs each, and we had literally no issues. No one even got close to dying due to double Indomitable and Whispering Dawn overload. Neither of us even went below 50% MP, even without BRD/MCH, and we retained constant DPS on the boss.

If you were mediocre at SCH before, that's not going to change this expansion.