Thread: Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

I have tried it out and scholar isn't as good as you make it out to be.

Scholar is not strong

If you think it is, why don't you go Scholar/Scholar for all the Extremes currently?

Originally Posted by curather

I have tried it out and scholar isn't as good as you make it out to be.

Scholar is not strong

If you think it is, why don't you go Scholar/Scholar for all the Extremes currently?

Already done that. I've finished both of the Extremes with Scholar/Scholar for multiple runs each, and we had literally no issues. No one even got close to dying due to double Indomitable and Whispering Dawn overload. Neither of us even went below 50% MP, even without BRD/MCH, and we retained constant DPS on the boss.

If you were mediocre at SCH before, that's not going to change this expansion.

Originally Posted by Vijaya

Already done that. I've finished both of the Extremes with Scholar/Scholar for multiple runs each, and we had literally no issues. No one even got close to dying due to double Indomitable and Whispering Dawn overload. Neither of us even went below 50% MP, even without BRD/MCH, and we retained constant DPS on the boss.

If you were mediocre at SCH before, that's not going to change this expansion.

Indomitable is nice but it has a 30s cd. Other than that, you have emergency tactics to try to increase your aoe heals. Sch/Sch should have their galvanize stack like medica II.

Originally Posted by curather

Indomitable is nice but it has a 30s cd. Other than that, you have emergency tactics to try to increase your aoe heals. Sch/Sch should have their galvanize stack like medica II.

The 30s doesn't make much difference for these trials at least, since the AoE mechanics from the trials are also on 30/60 second timers pretty much exactly. For example on Susano EX, Ukehi will occur after 60 seconds immediately following the 4th lightning, so you can pre-empt Rouse/Whispering during the 4th cross, and then heal into the Ukehi with a single Succor/Indom, and the party will be at full HP, or will be by the time the HoT wears off.

For Lakshmi, Indom was always up for both AoE & Stack mechanics, and two Indom's just instantly topped off the party every time for 0 MP. Emergency Tactics is also on 30s, so even if you run two SCH, you don't need to overlap Galvanize.

But I guess we'll see if they stick to 30s/60s timers in the raids.

To be honest, as I'm leveling SCH right now and have hit level 66, I have had no problems with MP management or keeping up tanks and the party. I've adapted to not using Adlo as much as I once did, which helps cut down MP consumption considerably. Though it helps that I don't see party wide damage going out that much nor do I actually have to DPS as much as I once did.

I don't appreciate that sort of holier than thou attitude. If you do content with two healers it's not the same as if you are doing the single healer four-man content. There are definitely issues there.

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

To be honest, as I'm leveling SCH right now and have hit level 66, I have had no problems with MP management or keeping up tanks and the party. I've adapted to not using Adlo as much as I once did, which helps cut down MP consumption considerably. Though it helps that I don't see party wide damage going out that much nor do I actually have to DPS as much as I once did.

The 67-70 content is mainly where you'll feel it most, I think.

Originally Posted by zeopower6

I don't appreciate that sort of holier than thou attitude. If you do content with two healers it's not the same as if you are doing the single healer four-man content. There are definitely issues there.



The 67-70 content is mainly where you'll feel it most, I think.

I completely agree! I am leveling up a ast from 60 since I don't see them fixing this.

Originally Posted by zeopower6

The 67-70 content is mainly where you'll feel it most, I think.

Good to know, I just hit 67 so I'll be seeing it soon.

Mostly I am fine with SCH in 4.0 at 70 but they need to do some potency adjustments. I'm still baffled at the AST shielding and healing better than SCH and WHM. But then again, they DO want people to play AST, so...

Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Good to know, I just hit 67 so I'll be seeing it soon.

It is pretty much the same for all healers. It is quite an adjustment to go from keeping the tank alive with a regen while watching Netflix to actually having to think about healer CD usage.