DPS classes numbers and ranking posted on reddit

[Vincentv]

lol so what if they don't bring anything, Litany, disembowel and dragon sight aren't 600 raid DPS even in our wildest dreams.

Actually they are close to 600 DPS, Don't forget to include boosts for tanks and healers from litany and disembowel is still significant for BRD/MCH. The dragon sight is just icing on said cake.

When you factor in raid buffs most melee will likely outdo the casters by a bit. Napkin math puts Nin around 4500 and drg closer to 4600. Monk only goes up 100 or so to 4335. Please Note, napkin estimates since real parsing will show more accurate numbers (aka lazy and not figuring out compounding effect, crit damage increase values (it's not a 200% damage increase from crit), etc).

All that said, can't wait to see numbers on an actual raid to see how all the buffs compound and how high each class really is. I wonder if MCH/BRD could be dropped entirely, if healers don't need the MP...

[Neela]

All that said, can't wait to see numbers on an actual raid to see how all the buffs compound and how high each class really is. I wonder if MCH/BRD could be dropped entirely, if healers don't need the MP...

I can imagine that BRD/MCH might come in handy in case of a heavy movement tier. Caster still got their backdrop in massiv aoe situations - no matter how hard they can strike - they need there spots & time to shine.

[Ephier]

Actually they are close to 600 DPS, Don't forget to include boosts for tanks and healers from litany and disembowel is still significant for BRD/MCH. The dragon sight is just icing on said cake.

When you factor in raid buffs most melee will likely outdo the casters by a bit. Napkin math puts Nin around 4500 and drg closer to 4600. Monk only goes up 100 or so to 4335. Please Note, napkin estimates since real parsing will show more accurate numbers (aka lazy and not figuring out compounding effect, crit damage increase values (it's not a 200% damage increase from crit), etc).

All that said, can't wait to see numbers on an actual raid to see how all the buffs compound and how high each class really is. I wonder if MCH/BRD could be dropped entirely, if healers don't need the MP...

You crazy if you think DRG beats NIN. TA is one of the most borderline broken skills in the game.

[KaiSunstrider]

I can imagine that BRD/MCH might come in handy in case of a heavy movement tier. Caster still got their backdrop in massiv aoe situations - no matter how hard they can strike - they need there spots & time to shine.

Also every single class brings their own personal debuffs for the most part other than BRD/MCH. In a dragoon group, they get around a 6% flat damage buff which puts BRD in the lower 4ks without considering any other cds at all.

[Ephier]

Also every single class brings their own personal debuffs for the most part other than BRD/MCH. In a dragoon group, they get around a 6% flat damage buff which puts BRD in the lower 4ks without considering any other cds at all.

In turn, stuff like trick, foes, hypercharge also buff other classes pushing their damage up as well. Sooo...

[Revanslave]

This just helps prove my point that SMN wasn't "hit hard" like people constantly tell me. I hear it's unplayable because of thier nerf at least a few times a day.

[SaintK]

Where my MCH bros at?

[Caitlyn]

RIP MCH : (

[Brinzy]

This just helps prove my point that SMN wasn't "hit hard" like people constantly tell me. I hear it's unplayable because of thier nerf at least a few times a day.

I don't doubt you heard this a lot, but I've personally heard many more complaints about how the class would play, and there are good arguments that support the class still needing adjustments.

SMN has access to every bit of damage it brings except that 5% damage buff on a 90s CD on dummy fights. Most other classes are missing out on much bigger sources of damage on dummy fights.

In an actual raiding scenario, there's still a significant chance that SMN might perform relatively poorly, because these classes that they're barely parsing for more than (according to this data) are gonna be massively stronger in 8 mans. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen.

But yeah, I wouldn't come to a hasty conclusion based on target dummy numbers.

[TheLastDream]

Wow MCH feelsbadman, I'm fine with my NIN being at 5, Love ninja in stormblood..